Escaping Apostate Church Judgments

I was in the second floor (the soul area) of a fairly huge house, which housed UBM ministry. I saw many different races, from different nations. We were all viewing through the glass window what was going on outside. (I.e., What was happening to the world and worldly church.) We were all not afraid. I saw a white tornado, which was like a very straight line with lightning emanating from it. It looked very fierce and the winds were extremely violent. Yet, we were all praising God.

I was not too bothered about the tornado and went to the kitchen. I started washing my cup with a white cloth lying on the sink. My cup was not dirty to the naked eye but being meticulous, I took that cloth to clean it under running water. Next, I started to wash that cloth with a brush having golden bristles, in case the particles of dirt on my cup went on that small cloth. Interestingly, I did not know that David wanted that cloth. But he kept coming to the sink because he wanted that cloth but he was so humble and too polite to ask for it back from me. After I had finished scrubbing and washing that cloth, he came and collected that cloth back from me with a smile and started using it.

I think the white tornado is the power of God going forth to straighten, cleanse and judge the church, which is not yet abiding in Him, for which we are celebrating. Nah.1:2 Jehovah is a jealous God and avengeth; Jehovah avengeth and is full of wrath; Jehovah taketh vengeance on his adversaries, and he reserveth [wrath] for his enemies. 3 Jehovah is slow to anger, and great in power, and will by no means clear [the guilty]: Jehovah hath his way in the whirlwind and in the storm, and the clouds are the dust of his feet. God controls the tornado, and His wrath is against the fleshly man who is ruling over His people. Only if our cup is clean are we delivered from this need for cleansing and judgment on ourselves.

The cup that we drink from represents what we reap from God's hand through the world. A clean cup represents receiving righteousness and blessing from God without judgment. Babylon, as a type of the U.S. in Jer.25, brings the cup of wrath to the nations around God’s people. Jer.25:15 For thus saith Jehovah, the God of Israel, unto me: take this cup of the wine of wrath at my hand, and cause all the nations, to whom I send thee, to drink it. 16 And they shall drink, and reel to and fro, and be mad, because of the sword that I will send among them. In A.A. Allen's vision God quoted from verses 27-29 to tell of the cup of wrath he would present to worldly U.S., typed as Babylon, and then the world. Allen saw a sword in the cup.

Jer.25:27 And thou shalt say unto them, Thus saith Jehovah of hosts, the God of Israel: Drink ye, and be drunken, and spew, and fall, and rise no more, because of the sword which I will send among you. 28 And it shall be, if they refuse to take the cup at thy hand to drink, then shalt thou say unto them, Thus saith Jehovah of hosts: Ye shall surely drink. 29 For, lo, I begin to work evil at the city which is called by my name; and should ye be utterly unpunished? Ye shall not be unpunished; for I will call for a sword upon all the inhabitants of the earth, saith Jehovah of hosts. Notice that the apostate people of God and their leadership, will receive the cup of judgment before the U.S. and the world are conquered by it.

The water is the Word, but it is not as powerful to clean the cup through which we partake of without the work of clean hands, which the white cloth represents. Gal.6:7 Be not deceived; God is not mocked: for whatsoever a man soweth, that shall he also reap. What is in the cup is what we reap and partake of. Jas.1:22 But be ye doers of the word, and not hearers only, deluding your own selves. The gold-bristled brush may represent the valuable desire and work of holiness in our heart to clean up the work of our hands that we might escape the judgments to come.

Billions Swallowed By Death

Anonymous - 12/15/2010 (David’s notes in red)

In October 2008, in the middle of the afternoon, I began having a horrible headache. It got so bad that I decided to lay down and spend time with the Lord and pray until it was gone. As soon as I laid down and closed my eyes, I had this vision:

I was high above looking down onto this scene: A gigantic swirling black hole. It was violently swirling in a clockwise motion. There were millions upon millions of little, tiny ant-like objects all around it. They surrounded the hole 360 degrees -- not one little area was vacant. The Lord brought me closer so I could see it all clearly. My heart was so grieved when I saw what was happening. The little ant-like objects were people. People of all sizes, shapes and nationalities. Men, women and children. They were in the fetal position, being sucked into the giant swirling black hole.

I opened my eyes and said, “Oh, Lord. What is this all about?” I just wanted to lay down and get rid of this headache. So, I closed my eyes again and saw the exact same vision. I got up, came into the den, headache forgotten. I sat looking out the window, seeking the Father. After a while, I asked, “Father, what is this all about?”

I heard, “My people perish for lack of knowledge”. Hos.4:6 My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge: because thou hast rejected knowledge, I will also reject thee ...

This sent me to Isaiah 5:13-14. Now this really left me frozen in my chair.

Isa.5:13 Therefore my people are gone into captivity for lack of knowledge; and their honorable men are famished, and their multitude are parched with thirst. 14 Therefore Sheol hath enlarged her mouth without measure; and their glory, and their multitude, and their pomp, and he that rejoiceth among them descend into it.

In the vision, the gigantic black hole was like an enlarged mouth swallowing people up! That's what left me frozen! It scared me. My heart was breaking for the people. I prayed and have grieved and prayed off and on over the years since this vision. I thought I was to send this about a year ago, but the Father shut it down. I have been feeling an urgency for about two weeks now to send this vision and today I am feeling that I must. Please help me to understand it entirely. If it is for such a time as this, praise the Lord!

I believe the Lord was showing me the church today and the condition it's in. People being sucked, silently, with no screaming or yelling. Not even the slightest attempt to try to hold on somehow to keep from being sucked directly into hell. It's all pomp and programs and entertainment and watered-down scriptures to tickle their ears and glaze their eyes over. The people have been numbed and blinded by the leaders from the pulpit.

What I don't understand is this: Why children? I thought children were not held accountable.

Just as we enter the kingdom of God on Earth, we enter Sheol here. It is the place of the dead. Those who give themselves over to fleshly pleasure are dead while they live. 1Ti.5:6 But she that giveth herself to pleasure is dead while she liveth. From birth, man is beginning to be swallowed up by the curse of death. Psa.58:3 The wicked are estranged from the womb: They go astray as soon as they are born, speaking lies. The children escape it when they die in innocence but if they continue to mature they will be completely swallowed up. The only cure is the Gospel of Jesus Christ. We need to tell them.

Prophetic Visions of Judgment

A Prophetic Vision Given to Nita Johnson - January 27, 1989

[editor's notes in brackets] (David’s notes in red)

I was awakened in the middle of the night. The Lord said to me, “Why do you think I gave you that vision of the United States?” I replied, “I don't know, Lord, why did you?” He then responded, “A surrogate mother won't work. Sarah could not be one to Ishmael. It's not My way”. As I was pondering what that could possibly mean, He followed with, “Only what is born of faith can work”.

While the Lord gave birth to America's liberty and planted in her bosom a hope, He promised to be her protective covering if she would meet His conditions. He did not give birth to this sinful and rebellious nation. Although He has given birth to His church, a nation within a nation, He did not give birth to this antagonistic entity we call ‘America’. It was the blood, sweat and tears of man that gave it birth. Humanists swam in the womb with this nation and humanists have helped give it birth. They have nurtured it, coddled it and flaunted it as the son of their pride.

On the other hand, it was the church who fought for the right of motherhood. She fought for the right to set up the rules and even discipline the spoiled child when it was bad. But she, alas, has only been “the surrogate mother for a rebellious Ishmael”.

It was Sarah who wisely declared at last, “Cast out this bondwoman and her son, for the son of this bondwoman shall not be heir with my son!” However, while this is true, Abraham suffered over releasing Ishmael and sending him away. Even so, our Eternal Father suffers over the future of the people of America. He must cast away the rebellious but He does it with great pain. What America as a nation doesn't understand is that we have been reaping the benefits of the church's inheritance for over two hundred years. While the church has not been the model bride any more than Sarah had been a perfect wife, we the church are, nonetheless, God's bride and the spiritual nation of Israel. (By position the church is the bride but we must be made so by manifestation of Jesus in us. Those who manifest Zion will have its benefits. “Christ in you the hope of glory”.) So while the Lord loves His “spiritual Israel” (the church) and although He must even chastise His elect, He will cast out the irreverent Ishmael (Those in America who hate and persecute their brother.)

Though God loves man, He hates sin and will cast out from the inheritance those that choose to serve sin. For these it might be said; He has little regard. May we also remember it was not God who first rejected America. Although He has stretched His arms out to us, we are the ones who have refused Him. So, fear not Church, that which is born of Earth will stand. God has in His judgment remembered mercy. What I'm about to share is the way in which God is going to, in effect, cast out this rebellious America He calls Ishmael. (He is casting them out now.) The process will begin while the church is still here. In fact, it has already begun and will continue until all is fully executed; I want to add one more thing before I share the vision the Bible tells us:

And if you say in your [minds and] hearts, How shall we know which words the Lord has not spoken? When a prophet speaks in the name of the Lord, if the word does not come to pass or prove true, that is a word which the Lord has not spoken. The prophet has spoken it presumptuously; you shall not be afraid of him. (Deu 18:21-22) So we are to judge the word which is spoken in the Lord's name by waiting to see if it comes to pass. If it does, we need to believe it and respond to God's warnings through it. (One caveat is that Jonah and Amos spoke words that did not come because the people repented and in the second because God had mercy.)

The Vision: On January 27, 1989, I had been in a spirit of prayer all night and was finally just starting to dose off to sleep. Suddenly, I was fully awakened by a vision of a map of the United States. It was not a vision in my head but was what some call an open vision out in front of me.

The map was in a silvery light and was completely sectioned off into states. just as suddenly as it had appeared, I heard a voice, as robust as the sound of many waters yet with great intensity, begin to give directions. Starting with the West Coast, the voice would speak and that same silvery light would shoot down from the direction of heaven like a laser beam onto the map. The light would follow the path directed by the voice and then effects would follow as I will explain.

First, the voice cried out – “The West Coast, California, Oregon and Washington, starting from the southernmost tip all the way up to Seattle, will suffer natural disasters, such as earthquakes, floods, fire, and enemy attack.” The line shot up the map taking most of California and leaving only a small section that bordered on Arizona and Nevada. It went up through Oregon taking about half of that state and then on up through Washington, taking about one-third of that state, then out toward the ocean through Seattle. The minute the line touched Seattle, everything west of the line disappeared.

The voice then cried out, “Michigan, Indiana, Ohio, and Illinois will suffer natural disasters, such as floods, earthquakes and tornadoes, and enemy attack.” Immediately, this line started at about where Lansing, Michigan, is and fanned down in what became two lines going south first. Then one line swung back up easterly through Ohio, going out over the Great Lake Erie through Cleveland. The other line swung down through Indiana and then headed back up northwesterly and went out into Great Lake Michigan up by the way of the northeast corner of Illinois and out through Chicago. When it was done, it looked like two ‘U’s, side by side. This affected areas all through the region, for instance, as far east as Detroit and easterly in Michigan to the Great Lake itself on the west. The whole southern part of the glove experienced cataclysmic results.

Next, the voice called out, “Most of Louisiana and all of Texas will suffer natural disasters, floods, hurricanes, tornadoes, and enemy attack.” The line shot up through New Orleans east of Baton Rouge, up through Shreveport in a kind of wiggly way then cut off all of Texas. Texas disappeared. Louisiana experienced devastation but didn't disappear.

I was ready for this to end, yet the Lord continued. “New York down through Pennsylvania, the Virginias, the eastern art of Tennessee, Georgia, and Florida will suffer natural disasters of every kind, hurricanes, flooding, earthquakes, etc. and enemy attack.” Then everything that was east of the line disappeared.

The Lord continued, “The Grand Canyon will suffer natural disasters.” The line seemed to start at the bottom of the Grand Canyon heading northerly straight up to Montana through Yellowstone. This was also accompanied by cataclysmic disasters like floods, earthquakes, volcanoes, and fires. This affected a substantial area, including Arizona, Utah, western parts of Wyoming, the eastern tip of Idaho and southwestern part of Montana. The regions did not disappear, but experienced utter catastrophe.

Then Missouri, Mississippi, Arkansas, Alabama, West Tennessee, Kentucky, and on it went. There were severe heat waves, hailstorms, energy blackouts, severe snow and ice storms as well as extreme arctic cold spells to the loss of many lives. I saw it so often occur in some of the least likely areas. Famines, pestilence, plagues, and more. Nevada and Utah were all but destroyed through natural disasters of every kind and ultimately enemy attack. They did, however, remain on the map (Please note that I am not declaring that the states that disappeared fell off into the sea. I don't know why they disappeared, only that they did. Consequently, I am merely relating what I saw and not trying to interpret.) [Uninhabitable, or inhabited by invaders] (We have seen these very judgments come to pass in the recent years and more so currently so they may go to the end.)

I was so dumbstruck that I felt numb, even bruised. It was hard for me to pull it all together in my mind. I just sat there in shock. Finally, I realized if I didn't write it down, I'd lose a lot of it as there was so much detail. So I wrote down what I could remember. Some states, such as New Mexico, were lost from my memory. I couldn't remember what happened to them, so I didn't record it.

I distinctly remember, however, that the only part of the US that was not devastated was the Central United States, a region basically west of the Missouri River, as I have indicated on the map. I also realized that many of the things that would begin happening immediately would be of an unusual nature, such as natural disasters that would seem improbable or even impossible, at least for that particular geographical area. (The DS has been causing much of the “natural disasters” by manipulating the weather and fault lines.)

I was instructed that this sequence of events would start immediately, picking up momentum with time until eventually the succession would be happening with gunshot rapidity, until all fulfilled. It's important to understand that the natural disasters did not specifically follow “the lines”, but the lines seemed to indicate the borders of the severely affected areas. The only one exception was the line that went up through the Grand Canyon north to Montana. In that case, the line seemed to symbolize the central core of action with a radiating aftermath both to the east and west. I saw natural disasters in Alaska and the Hawaiian Islands followed by warheads. (Nuclear war has been determined.)

Finally, I saw a severe diminishing of our nation's military. Officers, and enlisted men, as well as the closing of many critical bases were part of the scenario. Our ability to defend ourselves was critically reduced, to a point of near ineffectiveness. (The Military cut down was not incorporated in this vision, but was seen many years ago.) (The DS has in fact reduced the military (and law enforcement by their defunding the police) through the Obama/Biden administrations through the vax and other divisive ways. The beast in mid-trib could do more.)

These disasters have already begun, just as He said they would. Since that vision, there have been two earthquakes in California, terrible fires, hurricanes on the East Coast and Gulf Coast that did what all the meteorologists said could never happen. Flooding for the first time in history was recorded in a community in northern Ohio resulting in unusual deaths. There have been earthquakes near the Madrid fault line, and East Coast, floods and terrible disasters all over from tornados. Those are just a few instances, but hopefully, they're enough to drive the point home. These things are neither freak accidents, as some would have you believe, nor are they just satanic humor on mankind.

Church, please realize that the Lord commanded everything that I saw hit the map. He also told me it was part of the sequential calamities which are warnings ultimately leading to full judgment assigned to this country. They are like blinking red lights along the path of judgment. Go back! Stop! Repent! The end is at hand! Will you hear? Will you pray? How in His great mercy would He gladly stop or minimize catastrophe for His praying church!

End Time Vision

Daisy Osborn

I lay sleepless and horrified, greatly vexed in the Spirit. The Lord visited and showed me things that will shortly come to pass. The JUDGMENT and WRATH of God will soon bring disaster and havoc to the world we live in. The DIE is CAST. God's clock is set. TIME is running out.

'In a VISION' I saw: the face of the earth and the changing of the shape of America. It was drastically altered and reduced in size through terrible disasters. Hunger and suffering were everywhere. The devastation caused by volcanic eruptions and fires were widespread and horrifying during this terrible holocaust.

I saw Christians clustering together from all walks of life and many church affiliations. They did not care about their sectarian doctrines. The tie that bound them in their desperate hour, was their common faith in Christ. They clung together as though their survival depended upon each other.

After these terrifying cataclysmic events which the Lord showed me, all the evils of sectarianism and apostasy vanished among the Christians desperate struggle to draw strength from one another. Those who had been lukewarm, cast aside besetting sins, and sought identity with the true believers. Cigarettes, pills, social drinkers, marital cheaters; were repented of and amends were made.

A new sense of values gripped the conscience of Believers. The new morality standard and modern license for laxity was like a remorseful hangover. Most of the Christians in the “visitation” were amazed that WE “were experiencing” and WE were witnessing His WRATH and JUDGMENT!!!

Many social Christians were ill-prepared. Their frivolous, unwatchful, imprudent lives had GAMBLED on Mercy & Grace, which they had thought required no reckoning---EVER!!! (Yes, many believe they will just fly away and not go through any tribulation.)

I saw hordes (believers) lost among the religious and Christ Jesus rejecters. As I looked, I saw where mountains were flattened. Believers were FLEEING to the desert to take shelter in caves & rocks. The DESOLATION was so terrible that it seemed NO ONE would be spared. (Luke 21:34-36 (KJV) Matthew 24:20-22)

All but a few were full of remorse. Lamentations could be heard everywhere. It was heartening to observe that during the FEARSOME DISASTERS-----UNSHAKABLE FAITH held like an ANCHOR among the Christians. They knew they would SOON see the SON coming in the clouds of heaven and with Power & Glory!

(Daisy Osborn (now with the Lord) was the wife of Healing evangelist T.L. Osborn)

Judgment Begins at God's House

B.A. - 06/11/2012 (David's note in red)

I dreamed I was in my kitchen, preparing the evening meal (feasting on the Word of God as the days are growing darker), when I saw lightning streak across the sky and there was a clap of thunder so loud that it shook the entire house. (This was the Lord's voice sounding an alarm to His saints; get prepared, the storm is at hand. Psa.97:4 His lightnings lightened the world; The earth saw; and trembled. 114:7 Tremble, thou earth, at the presence of the Lord, At the presence of the God of Jacob.) I went to the kitchen window and looked out and saw a large, dark storm cloud coming toward my house. As I stood looking at this cloud, I saw it start to form an unusual shape; it looked like a giant rolling pin. (A rolling pin is used to roll out and flatten out dough. I took this to mean judgment from the Lord and the dough represents the [leavened], apostate people of God getting ready to be judged (thrown in the oven) for their unrepentant sin.)

1Pe.4:17 For the time is come for judgment to begin at the house of God: and if it begin first at us, what shall be the end of them that obey not the gospel of God? Amo.3:2 You only have I known of all the families of the earth: therefore I will visit upon you all your iniquities. 2Th.1:8 rendering vengeance to them that know not God, and to them that obey not the gospel of our Lord Jesus.

As I was meditating on this cloud, I heard a voice that appeared to be coming from over my head say, “Don't go out of the house until the storm is over”. (The house here is Jesus in Whom we must abide by repentance and faith in His blood, which is our covering and our new life. This will be the Passover judgment which, according to type, comes before the wilderness tribulation.) Exo.12:22 And ye shall take a bunch of hyssop, and dip it in the blood that is in the basin, and strike the lintel and the two side-posts with the blood that is in the basin; and none of you shall go out of the door of his house until the morning. 23 For Jehovah will pass through to smite the Egyptians (Those in the land who are not Christ-like); and when he seeth the blood upon the lintel, and on the two side-posts, Jehovah will pass over the door, and will not suffer the destroyer to come in unto your houses to smite you.

Isa.26:20 Come, my people, enter thou into thy chambers, and shut thy doors about thee: hide thyself for a little moment, until the indignation be overpast. And Heb.11:28 By faith he kept the Passover (Eating only Jesus, the unleavened bread of the Word.), and the sprinkling of the blood, that the destroyer of the firstborn should not touch them. You could tell this was no ordinary thunderstorm; this was a storm of “thunder judgment” (God has spoken it; He will bring it to pass.) Isa.46:11 calling a ravenous bird from the east, the man of my counsel from a far country; yea, I have spoken, I will also bring it to pass; I have purposed, I will also do it.

I immediately went into my prayer closet and began to pray for all of my family (UBM) and all of God's people (Church) in the path of this storm. (We see now that this Passover judgment will affect the lost and all of God's people. I suspect this will come on the head of the beast, the U.S., but will secondarily affect the world through loss of influence, trade and economy.) I knew this storm was going to destroy houses in my neighborhood. Many of God's people have not heeded His warnings. They mock the dreams and visions He has given to His people to warn them and to prepare them ahead of this storm. Their blood is on their own hands! Eze.3:17 Son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore hear the word at my mouth, and give them warning from me. 18 When I say unto the wicked, Thou shalt surely die; and thou givest him not warning, nor speakest to warn the wicked from his wicked way, to save his life; the same wicked man shall die in his iniquity; but his blood will I require at thy hand ...

20 Again, when a righteous man doth turn from his righteousness, and commit iniquity, and I lay a stumblingblock before him, he shall die: because thou hast not given him warning, he shall die in his sin, and his righteous deeds which he hath done shall not be remembered; but his blood will I require at thy hand. (The wicked leadership that does not hear and give the warnings will be held guilty of the blood of the saints. The faithful who have given the warning and been persecuted for it will be spared. Also, I believe this could mean that quakes and terrible side-effects, economic loss, etc., will judge the wicked who are gathered against the righteous. Remember, at the end of the Passover there was judgment at the Red Sea just before the wilderness tribulation.)

After the storm was over, I decided to go outside and take a look at the damage. Sure enough, as I went up and down my street, many houses were completely destroyed; I couldn't even see where their foundations had been. (This represents reprobation.) Psa.11:3 If the foundations be destroyed, What can the righteous do? All evidence of those houses ever being there was completely gone. Jud.12 These are they who are hidden rocks in your love-feasts when they feast with you, shepherds that without fear feed themselves; clouds without water, carried along by winds; autumn leaves without fruit, twice dead, plucked up by the roots. (Although “shepherds” in this text has no numeric pattern, they are certainly included with the rest of the “hidden” fakes among us who “feed themselves” and must be separated through reprobation.) This is the reward of the wicked who would not repent. They were searched out by the Lord and spiritually destroyed. This will also be the portion of the factious who have ignored and scoffed at the Lord's messengers and refuse to repent.

Some houses were badly damaged, but with a little elbow grease (the Lord's works) they could be completely restored. (Some of the factious people [and other sinners] will repent; they will come to recognize the mighty arm of the Lord in this storm and turn back to Him.) Rev.2:5 Remember therefore whence thou art fallen, and repent and do the first works; or else I come to thee, and will move thy candlestick out of its place, except thou repent. (We have received dreams of individuals repenting because of judgment.)

When I got back to my house (God’s house), a man with his entire family was sitting on my front porch. The father stood up when he saw me and came up to me and asked if he and his family could stay with me, as their home had been damaged by the storm and wasn't safe. (Their house had not been built upon “the Rock”, Jesus). Mat.7:24 Every one therefore that heareth these words of mine, and doeth them, shall be likened unto a wise man, who built his house upon the rock, 25 and the rain descended, and the floods came, and the winds blew, and beat upon that house; and if fell not: for it was founded upon the rock. (This represents a group of people who will repent through this chastening.)

They noticed that my house had not been damaged by the storm. Heb.12:27 And this word, Yet once more, signifieth the removing of those things that are shaken, as of things that have been made, that those things which are not shaken may remain. Not so much as a shingle had been disturbed on my house. They knew there had to be something special about my house. (She was representing the Bride.) It was the only house in the neighborhood that had no damage whatsoever. (Abiding in the secret place of the Most High, where are found all the promises of safety and provision. Psa.121:7 Jehovah will keep thee from all evil; He will keep thy soul.) The true people of God will be easy to recognize by people who are truly seeking after the truth. You won't see any evidence of the curse on them. Mat.7:20 Therefore by their fruits ye shall know them. Mat.5:14 Ye are the light of the world. A city set on a hill cannot be hid. ... 16 Even so let your light shine before men; that they may see your good works, and glorify your Father who is in heaven.

I knew the Lord had specifically sent this family to me to care for them, as they were survivors of the storm. Praise the Lord! (The Lord is restoring His family and the firstfruits will play a large role in this restoration process.) My heart felt such compassion for this family. I eagerly invited them into my home and gave them food and some fresh, clean water. After they had all eaten, I drew each of them a bath and gave them all clean clothes, and prepared a place for them to sleep. (This represents giving them the cure: the food, water and washing of the Word and the clothes of obedience to it and the rest of faith in God.)

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Escaping Apostate Church Judgments (2)

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David Eells 11/17/24

The Whole Counsel of God or Death

The following wonderful vision was given to Brother L. Vere Elliot, after a time of earnest struggle in prayer for a new spiritual revival and an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.

In a vision I was in the midst of a great meeting hall. The walls and ceiling were covered with jewels and ornaments everywhere. The windows were made of colored glass. The hall was full of people -- some were rich, some poor, some sick and crippled, some deaf, mute and blind -- but all had handcuffs and no one was free. (Apostate religious system)

In front of the meeting hall there was a large platform with a pulpit on one side and a large cage in which there was a huge green serpent on the other side. (They believe the serpent is subdued because they go to church.) Hanging in the air between those two things, there was a tremendously large sword suspended horizontally and fastened with two strings hanging down from the ceiling. At each end of the sword there was a string; just behind there was a row of eight or 10 men clothed in clergy-type robes, sitting one behind the other, each one seated a little above the one before him. (The Nicolaitan Pastors.)

The assembly looked at these men and the men looked upon the assembly. There was a silence for a while, until a thundering voice sounded from the pulpit, as if it came directly from God: "Who will declare the whole counsel of God?" The first clergyman arose with a Bible in his hand. When he did so, the old green serpent uncoiled and stretched out, hissing against the man, with sparkling eyes and protruding fangs. The man of God (falsely so-called) sank back into his seat and placed his Bible under his chair. (They fear to go beyond their religion) The serpent then stretched up its head to touch the sword (which the man was standing under when he spoke to the people), saying, "With this, I shall kill you if you obey the voice of God". Then, for a little while, there was silence again.

Again the voice sounded from the pulpit, "Who will declare the whole counsel of God?" At that time, the second man in a clergy-type robe arose, as if he would step forward, but again the serpent uncoiled against the man and he tumbled back with fear. The man sat down and placed his Bible under his chair. Then the serpent touched the sword again with the same previous remark, "With this, I shall kill you if you obey the voice of God".

For the third time, the voice from the pulpit thundered and the third man arose and sat down just like the two before him. Again and again, the voice sounded until each one of the clergymen had their own opportunity to resist the serpent but, like the first three, fear overcame them all. Then the serpent smiled with an evil smile. Oh, what a vicious, snake-like smile it was.

The voice then sounded again from the pulpit, "Oh, if there were a man. Oh, if there were a man. Oh, if there were a man who would declare the whole counsel of God, that these chained men might be set free. Is there not one man?"

The first clergyman then took up a notebook full of written sermons; it appeared as if he would preach from the notebook but he was stuck to his chair and endeavored in vain to arise. A man, little in stature, ascended the platform and stood under the sword. He lifted his eyes toward heaven and said, "Into thy hands, O God, I commit my spirit". He then opened the Bible and read, not adding anything to it nor taking anything away. The man spoke as a man having authority. When the man had finished, the old serpent stretched up to the sword and cut off the one string with its fangs. The sword swung down but passed over the head of the man of God because he was a man "little of stature". (He was humble to God.) The weight of the sword caused the other string to break, flinging the sword back, piercing the hearts of the clergymen, and nailing all of them to the wall. A great scream of despair sounded from the platform but an even greater scream of joy sounded from the assembly, for every man's chain was loosed, setting them free! (As it was and is with the Pharisees and Jesus.)

When this vision had vanished (it was truly a reality to me and all those who were together with me in the prayer room), I saw another vision of the Savior in a cloud, just above my head. He spoke, saying, "Hear, my son, the meaning of these things. The meeting hall which you saw is the secularized church, having a form of piety but denying the power of it. They are all covered with jewels of the joys of this world and there is no end of their silver and gold. The people whom you saw are those for which I died but my people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. They have eyes but not to see; they have ears but not to hear. They are truly in bondage and must be set free".

"The platform which you saw, on where the clergymen were sitting, is preconceived ideas, having their origin from the pit of hell. The pulpit is the throne of God and the serpent is old Lucifer himself, who, because of his pride, has set himself up as ruler over the church, since he could not be equal to Me in heaven".

"The sword which you saw is the Word of God and the strings on which it was hanging represent the power of the Word to give life and the power of the Word to take life. Life was given to the man who was of little stature. Life was taken from the clergymen who did not preach the word".

"The clergymen whom you saw are men from every church which pretend to know Me but they teach my people things which are not written in the Book of Life. Their pride, presumption and worldly spirit force them to obey Satan, who is a liar and the father of lies. Each of the clergymen tries to exceed the other in eloquence, in extensive writings, argumentations and the like but they only consider the letter of the Word. They leave out the Spirit of the Word. The day comes, and is now at hand, when they shall all likewise perish".

After having considered this horrible scene, the Lord spoke again with these words: "Do you remember my words in the prophecy of Jeremiah, chapter 23, as well as my words in the prophecy of Ezekiel, chapter 34? Read!" I opened my Bible and read: (Jer.23:1) Woe unto the shepherds that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith Jehovah. (14) In the prophets of Jerusalem also I have seen a horrible thing: they commit adultery, and walk in lies; and they strengthen the hands of evil-doers, so that none doth return from his wickedness: they are all of them become unto me as Sodom, and the inhabitants thereof as Gomorrah. (20) ….At the end of the days ye shall understand it clearly.

(Eze.34:2) …Woe unto the shepherds of Israel that do feed themselves! should not the shepherds feed the sheep? (4) The diseased have ye not strengthened, neither have ye healed that which was sick, neither have ye bound up that which was broken, neither have ye brought back that which was driven away, neither have ye sought that which was lost; but with force and with rigor have ye ruled over them. (16) …but the fat and the strong I will destroy; I will feed them in justice.

Then He said to me, "These false shepherds shall in no way escape when the sword falls upon them but my sheep must be warned. They must be set free". Again, He said, "Do you remember My words in the prophecy of Jeremiah, in the latter part of chapter 25? Read!" So I read these words: (Jer.25:33 And the slain of Jehovah shall be at that day from one end of the earth even unto the other end of the earth:... (34) Wail, ye shepherds, and cry; and wallow in ashes, ye principal of the flock; for the days of your slaughter and of your dispersions are fully come,…

Then He said to me, "These days shall come quickly. The shepherds shall howl, yea! There will be weeping and gnashing of teeth but when the sword has fallen, it will be too late forever.

The man whom you saw that was of little stature is every man ~~or woman~~ (Was added, doesn’t fit the context or the Word) who will humble himself and be obedient, even unto the death of the cross; putting his trust in God and going forward, declaring the whole counsel of God. Oh, if I could find such a man; can you tell Me where there is one? With such a man I could shake heaven and earth".

Now I’d like to share a word with you about:

The Bulls of Bashan

David Eells

The Lord has shown me a lot about the Saul ministries, and I’d like to share with you a few of those experiences the Lord has given me. I had asked the Lord, “Where are we, Lord?” and the Lord gave me 1Ch.10:1-6. Now the Philistines fought against Israel: and the men of Israel fled from before the Philistines, and fell down slain in mount Gilboa. 2 And the Philistines followed hard after Saul and after his sons; and the Philistines slew Jonathan, and Abinadab, and Malchi-shua, the sons of Saul.

3 And the battle went sore against Saul, and the archers overtook him; and he was distressed by reason of the archers. 4 Then said Saul unto his armor-bearer, Draw thy sword, and thrust me through therewith, lest these uncircumcised come and abuse me. But his armor-bearer would not; for he was sore afraid. Therefore Saul took his sword, and fell upon it. 5 And when his armor-bearer saw that Saul was dead, he likewise fell upon his sword, and died. 6 So Saul died, and his three sons; and all his house died together.

Before the David ministry, there was the Saul ministry. It was that Saul ministry who lost their battle with the inhabitants of the land, with the fleshly man, the old man who lived in the land, and this old man represented their carnal nature, their carnal flesh. So they lost their battle primarily because Saul prepared to lose this battle. He refused to obey the Lord and put to death the previous inhabitants of the land and he refused to put to death their king, Agag, for which God basically cursed him.

God gave Saul no authority; instead, the inhabitants of the land came back and conquered him and conquered all the people who followed him. Saul led them to disaster. He led them to lose the battle against what’s typed there as their old flesh. Today we also have a ministry that’s basically thinking that the old flesh cannot be overcome and that it’s not really necessary to overcome because we’re forgiven. But they miss the plan of God. David’s gift to be able to conquer the people of God’s enemies was because David had put to death his old man, Goliath, and taken off his head. He’d taken off the mind of the flesh. He did exactly the opposite of what Saul did and was given the victory.

Now, the Lord told me many years ago that He was moving the Sauls out of the way and making room for the Davids and I was one of His Davids. By, “moving the Sauls out of the way” He didn’t necessarily mean they were going to be physically killed, but that they were spiritually dying. There is no defense against the enemy when you’re spiritually dead, twice dead, plucked up by the roots (Jud.12). And he called them “shepherds” in Jude. He said that they were twice dead, plucked up by the roots because you can be twice born, but die again. You can be born again and die again.

So what does the Lord mean by “moving the Sauls out of the way”? Well, He meant for the elect, for the people of God who were to go on and to be the elect, that this false leadership over them was going to be brought to decimation and disrespect among them, be made dead to them. And after the Lord spoke that revelation to me, as a matter of fact, the same day it came on the news that one of the most, if not the most, famous minister in America had been caught red-handed in fornication. That was just the beginning of a long chain of ministers who fell by the wayside after being caught doing this and doing that. And it’s still happening today.

I want to share a revelation I received concerning this same minister who fell that first day. God gave me a very vivid dream. I’ve shared it before but maybe some of you haven’t heard it. I was standing on a mountain, looking down the side of this mountain, and I saw a construction crew very plainly putting up those real high-tension poles that they use for the high-tension wires, to bring a power line over the top of this mountain, and I believe the mountain represented the Kingdom of God. So they were coming up the side of this mountain and, while they were doing that, I looked down beside me and there was an old cow lying on the ground.

It was very shriveled up and very much on the edge of death. And so while I’m standing there looking at this, a construction worker comes up on a backhoe with a front-end loader. He scoops this old cow up and started moving the cow out of the way, but not before I reached down beside the cow and picked up a big baby boy. I mean he was a handful! A big baby boy. I knew that this baby boy had been birthed from that cow. And so, the front-end loader picks up the cow and starts carrying the cow off, while I have this big baby boy, I walk over and get on an escalator going up. While I was on the escalator, I looked beside me, and there was a woman with a normal-sized baby boy. She looks at this big baby in my arms and she says, “That looks like a real baby boy.” And I said, “Yeah, and I wonder how that’s possible,” as I was looking over at this front-end loader carrying the cow off. My thought was, “How is this possible, that this could come out of that?”

So let me share the interpretation with you. The Lord impressed me that the power line that’s coming, the great power that’s coming, is not going to come through the organizational churches as they are today. They are dying like the Saul ministry. The Saul ministry has brought great destruction to the churches through lack of truth, lack of putting the Amalekites to death, the old man to death, through lack of leading God’s people to put the old man to death. There’s great destruction. Death has come. We can see that in 1 Chronicles 10:1-6. Saul and all of the house that was under him, along with all the people whom he led in the war against the man of flesh, the old man, all died. And so this old cow was on the verge of death and I believe the Lord showed me it represented the apostate religious Christian institutions of men dying, passing off the scene.

God is refusing to share His power with or minister His power through these people, so, He’s moving them out of the way. This is a repetition of what happened in Jesus’ day. In His day there was a powerless bunch of people there who were considering themselves the people of God, yet they were dying. And He said to them, except ye believe that I am [he,] (or, literally, “I am”) ye shall die in your sins (Joh.8:24). They were doing it. They were dying in their sins and their Saul ministry was dying along with them. But Jesus got a little remnant out of those people, didn’t He? The disciples who came out of the apostate denominations of Judaism followed him. He went into the sheepfold, He called them by name and He called them out, and they followed Him.

That’s what this vision was all about. This vision that the Lord gave me is a modern-day re-enactment of that. The old cow represents that system of worshiping the golden calf, but now we’re seeing the end result of it: death. And the old cow was drying up, shriveled up and dying, but out of that cow, God plans on bringing forth fruit. That big baby boy represented the fruit that God is going to get out of this system. A multitude of people are going to come out of the system because God also has a Man-child ministry ready to lead them. They’re going to come out to follow Christ in this Man-child ministry, just like those early disciples did.

Jesus came in a body of David – a son of David. He was Son of man and Son of God. Jesus came in that body and the Bible tells us the same thing about Him coming in these days. He’s going to come to be glorified in his saints, and to be marvelled at in all them that believed (because our testimony unto you was believed) in that day (2Th.1:10). Paul, looking down the road to our day, was seeing that Jesus was going to come in His people and “be glorified in His saints.” Praise God! That’s exactly what the Bible teaches in 2Co.3:18. But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord (which is Christ in us), are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord the Spirit.

So the first-fruits of these people to come into this place are those who are believing that they can because they believe it’s a promised Word of God. That’s the reason they’re going to be the first-fruits to come into this. They’re ready to take a fruit that’s born from this old, corrupt, dead system and bring it up the escalator just Like Jesus did. The escalator represents a rest; it’s not stairs or steps. Steps are something that you have to work to go up, but an escalator is something that works for you. And this is what God is going to do. This is supernatural. This is going to be His power, meaning we’re going to get to rest in His power to bring it to pass!

God also pointed out to me that the cow represents this system because a cow eats grass. And the Apostle Peter said that all flesh is as grass (1Pe.1:24). The “cow system” of Saul only devours grass; in other words, they only a fleshly understanding of the Word. They don’t have eyes to see in the Spirit, just like the Pharisees and the people under them had no eyes to see in the Spirit. Jesus spoke of that in Matthew 13:13,14. They had no eyes and no ears, and so this cow only partakes of a fleshly understanding of the Word and is only able to feed someone milk, which is for babies. The only thing you can get that’s truthful out of this apostate system is milk and most of the time they don’t have that right.

So where we are headed is to the meat. Jesus said, My meat is to do the will of him that sent me (Joh.4:34), meaning to do the Will of My Father. And God’s people are going to do just that. We’re coming into a day when the people who come … out from among them (2Co.6:17) like those early disciples did, are going to do the Will of God. They’re going to walk in the steps of Jesus Christ. History always repeats. (Ecc.1:9) That which hath been is that which shall be; and that which hath been done is that which shall be done: and there is no new thing under the sun. I believe going up on the escalator represents getting closer and closer to God, becoming more and more Godly, and overcoming the world beneath. The power to do that is not coming to the old cow; the power is coming to the fruit that’s born out of the old cow.

Back to the vision. As we were going up this escalator, the scene changed and I saw a vision of myself going into a meeting. In this meeting, I looked around and I saw just about all the famous preachers in America, including the man I mentioned previously. The one who fell the very day the Lord told me that, “I’m moving the Sauls out of the way and making room for the Davids.” I believe that this man is going to be one of the few who may repent, which is the reason I don’t mention his name.

You know, in Jesus’ day, very few people repented. However, I received a dream about this man repenting and knowing about our ministry, talking about it favorably and so on, and I thought, “Oh, praise God!” You know, I would love to see them all repent. It’s not going to happen, but I would love to see them all repent. The overwhelming majority of the Saul ministry is never going to repent. In the New Testament, we have a Saul who became a Paul. He repented, so we know that there is a small minority of people who will. There’s a type and shadow for that.

Continuing with this revelation, I went into this conference with these famous ministers. Now, I’m not a famous minister, but I went there and this man left the crowd and walked over to me and he had some papers in his hand. They were all rolled up and he handed them to me like he was passing something on to me, and when they hit my hand, I heard the voice of the Lord say, “This is his propaganda about what he has accomplished.” And I understood that this man fell because he thought he was really irreplaceable, because of what he’d been doing for the Kingdom, the great success that he thought he was having for the Kingdom.

But, you know, any success that we have doesn’t come from us. We can’t take any credit for it. It’s by grace and it’s by God. If we think we’re irreplaceable, we’re all wrong because God said he can raise up stones to take our place. He doesn’t need us, we need Him, and that’s the whole point: we need Him. It’s by His grace that we stand. Anything that’s accomplished, He’s the One Who accomplishes it, not us. He uses this body. We, by grace, are used by God to do things and He can do it with anyone else. He doesn’t need us. He can use the next guy just as easily. God wants us, God loves us and we are valuable to Him, but He doesn’t need us. If you say He needs us because He wants us, well, that’s true, I agree, but don’t think you’re irreplaceable because you’re not. Neither am I.

So I knew the reason that this man fell was because of the word that the Lord gave to me. The Lord showed me he thought, “Well, I’m entitled to more. I’m entitled to have a fling. I’ve done so much for the Kingdom and so many people have been saved,” and so on.

The Lord revealed to me that these men were the “bulls of Bashan.” We see the ‘bulls of Bashan’ in this prophecy: (Psa.22:12) Many bulls have compassed me; Strong bulls of Bashan have beset me round. (13) They gape upon me with their mouth, [As] a ravening and as a roaring lion. And some of you may recognize this prophecy as speaking about Jesus. These leaders were called the “bulls of Bashan” because they were the ones who sowed their seed in the cow. We know the seed in the Bible is the Word, right? The reason Saul led his people to destruction at the hand of the Philistines is because of the teaching that he gave them. His leadership was faulty because he was not led of the Lord. And we’ll look at that, too, but first I want to point out that the “bulls of Bashan” is a prophecy.

David was not only a Psalmist but he was a prophet and in many of his prophecies he was speaking about himself. In this chapter, he was speaking about himself, but he was also speaking about Jesus and about the Man-child of our day because history just keeps repeating with larger and larger groups of people. For instance, if we go back to the beginning of the chapter, it says, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me? (Psa.22:1), we may recognize it because Jesus quoted it in Matthew 27:46. As a matter of fact, a lot of Psalm 22 is in Matthew 27.

So we recognize that as Jesus, Who was on His Cross and being crucified. We know that our Lord was crucified after 3½ years of ministry and that He was a literal Man-child. The Man-child that’s coming now is a spiritual Man-child, meaning the death that the spiritual Man-child is going to die is spiritual. It’s a death to self. It’s a crucifixion at the hands of a lot of wicked, false leadership. In Jesus’ day the leadership was the Pharisees, Sadducees, Zealots, other leadership, and the Sanhedrin false prophet; this leadership was crucifying Jesus and using the Roman government to do it.

Is it going to happen in our day? Yes, it’s going to happen, but in a spiritual way. We understand that the natural fulfillment comes first, then the spiritual. Paul teaches this in 1Co 15:46 Howbeit that is not first which is spiritual, but that which is natural; then that which is spiritual. Prophecies are usually first fulfilled naturally and then later, spiritually, they’re fulfilled again. Well, here we see Jesus going to His Cross and so shall the Man-child.

(Psa.22:8) Commit [thyself] unto the Lord; let him deliver him: Let him rescue him, seeing he delighteth in him. The religious leaders were saying the same thing at the foot of the Cross. (Mat.27:43) He trusteth on God; let him deliver him now, if he desireth him…. Let the Lord save Him, if He wants to save Him. But the strong bulls of Bashan were these religious leaders who had ruled over that cow system and led their people to death and destruction. It’s happening now that God is going to get a group of people out of there; a remnant is going to go on and go into the presence of God. But we see there’s also going to be persecution against the Man-child at the hands of these Saul leaders.

Verse 16 is very similar to verse 12, about the bulls of Bashan. (Psa.22:16) For dogs (God calls these apostate leaders greedy “dogs.”) have compassed me: A company of evil-doers have inclosed me; They pierced my hands and my feet. This is obviously the crucifixion of the Man-child being spoken of here, at the hands of the Saul ministry, the Pharisee ministry, and the Eli ministry. (Psa.22:18) They part my garments among them, And upon my vesture do they cast lots. That’s Matthew 27:35 again. We can see the fulfillment all the way down through (Psa.22:22) I will declare thy name unto my brethren: In the midst of the assembly will I praise thee. And Jesus did this.

So we see that this bulls of Bashan prophecy is something that was fulfilled in Jesus’ day, but also in the Man-child’s day in our time, it’s going to be fulfilled with a great persecution raised up at the hands of the apostate Saul ministry. As you know, Saul persecuted David. He attempted to kill David and crucified him in many ways. Saul spoke against him, he led Israel against him, but, of course, God preserved him. God anointed David to fight the battles of Israel while he was in the wilderness and even before he was anointed king.

And so the story back in 1 Chronicles 10 is very much going to be fulfilled in our time with the old cow, and it’s got to be moved out of the way for the real power to come. The real power, in this case, was David who followed Saul after Saul’s death in chapter 10. David was anointed king over all Israel. I just wanted to tell you that this Saul leadership is going to destruction for all but those who repent and come out of it. Those who are under it, under submission to it, are being called to come out of it now.

Jesus’ ministry was to call a remnant out of apostate Israel to come and follow Him and go to the Kingdom of God. And, once again, the Man-child’s ministry today is the same because Jesus is being manifested in the Man-child ministry by Word and Spirit. Jesus said this would happen, too in (Joh.16:21) A woman when she is in travail hath sorrow, because her hour is come: but when she is delivered of the child, she remembereth no more the anguish, for the joy that a man is born into the world. (22) And ye therefore now have sorrow: but I will see you again, and your heart shall rejoice, and your joy no one taketh away from you. He said a baby boy would once again be born to a woman; and, He said, “I’ll see you again.” And He is! He’s coming to feed His sheep, shepherd His sheep. Praise be to God! We’re looking forward to all that, aren’t we? Praise be to God!

So this old cow dying is talking about this apostate system of what we call Christianity around us. It’s all going to a crucifixion; it’s all dying. It’s dying basically at the hands of their own flesh; dying because they haven’t been taught that this old man has to die, as we know. I was thinking about those bulls of Bashan and how “bull” could be short for “baloney” because, I’ll tell you, they have a lot of baloney with them. I remember a fellow back when I used to be an apprentice for Exxon many, many years ago before I knew the Lord. This guy worked alongside me for about three years and he would faithfully bring his bologna sandwiches to work. I mean, they were just bologna between two pieces of white bread. He’d bring two of them to work every day.

And I asked him, “Don’t you eat vegetables?” “No,” he said, “I don’t like ‘em.” So I asked again, “Is the only thing you like bologna?” “Yeah, I like bologna.” Then I asked, “How can you live on bologna? Don’t you know what that stuff is, man? That’s not the best stuff in the world. It’s what’s left over when the butcher uses all the stuff for other things.” Well, I don’t know if that’s really true or not, but it kind of was in my mind. I asked, “How can you live on bologna every day?” “I like bologna,” he answered again. I told him, “You must.” I mean, bologna; that’s all he had was bologna with ketchup on it. That’s what he ate all the time.

You know, you really can’t live on that. Think about it, folks. A lot of people out there are just living on baloney. Those bulls of Bashan, you know the seed that they’re putting in that old cow is bringing it to death and destruction. But we know the Sower went forth to sow and the Man-child Jesus went forth to sow the seed, and that seed that He sowed in our hearts will bring forth Himself, 30-, 60- and 100-fold. This is what we’re looking forward to, right? And so we have to not depart from the true Word of God for somebody’s baloney.

I want to share another experience when I first came to Pensacola. I was invited to quite a few churches and some strange things started happening. In this one instance, I walked in at the back of the church and was looking down front as I was walking in. Down in front, a pastor was standing, facing me and there was a woman who was standing and facing him. Suddenly this woman wheeled around and pointed her finger right at me. She never saw me enter because she was looking the other way at this pastor as I walked in. And she started prophesying. And I’ll tell you, she went on prophesying for a while. It seemed like a long time because I was kind of nervous in front of people in situations like that, so I just kind of froze and looked at her.

She had her finger pointed right at my nose and she started prophesying at me. Well, I didn’t know what the Lord had planned, but He planned to open a door for me, and He used this woman, who’d never been in this church before in her life and she told me later she never went back there either. But she prophesied at me and she said, “I’ve never seen the Word of God in anybody like I see it in that man right there.” Then she went on to prophesy about what I was going to do and so forth. Well, it kind of opened the door because everybody was paying attention to me then including the pastor. They were probably thinking, “Who’s this guy?” Well, I’m a nobody and I like it that way.

But anyway, the pastor started asking me questions, and he didn’t have a real deep love of the Word or knowledge of the Word. He was basically leading these poor people astray, just like a Saul leadership.

Eventually, we came to find out that he was in fornication with some of the people who were in his mission and that he was cavorting with his secretary. He was also cheating people by convincing them he needed their money in order to support this mission and telling them lies. Their water was turned off one time while I was there; they came and turned the water off, but he went out there and turned it back on. He did the same thing with the electricity. So he was just a dishonest person.

But the poor people were thinking this was normal Christianity, especially people in the mission who were first coming to know the Lord and then got this guy for an example. And I thought, “God help them.” Well, anyway because of this prophecy, God was opening a door for me to preach and teach, and I did. I started preaching and teaching and God was delivering the people there and they were becoming happy. This pastor didn’t teach about baptism; it just wasn’t very important to him, so I taught them about baptism and baptized almost the whole church while I was there. The pastor had come out of a very famous rock band, so he was used to being charismatic. He was gifted in song and the guitar, so it was easy for people to follow him.

But when the people started hearing the Word, some of them became kind of excited, you know, and he could see that he was losing his grip on them. And I felt like some of that jealousy that was between Saul, or in Saul for David was showing up. As a matter of fact, the Lord spoke to this man, who was a prophet of sorts. He came and told me, “The Lord spoke to me. He said, “I’m Saul and you’re David.” He said this to me three times. So the pastor finally asked me, “What does this mean?” And I gave him something, but I didn’t feel like the Lord wanted me to give him everything, so I didn’t tell him everything that I knew and the Lord was teaching me through this experience, too.

I asked the Lord one time, “Lord, what do you want me to do with this guy?” Because he was a mess and he was leading these poor people. They were thinking it’s normal to do some of those things and he was teaching them wrong. And I asked the Lord, “Lord, what do you want me to do about him?” He said, “Nothing. Let the Philistines take him out.” That’s what he told me, just as clear as a bell. And I said, “Oh, okay. You know, he’s a Saul.” I guess that’s what happened to Saul; letting the Philistines take him out represents, of course, his old man taking him out.

It was really strange one time because two of the ladies in that church had the exact same dream about this man and how he was basically going to get taken out. They saw him going down the interstate and running off the road and into the water, and he was drowning in his vehicle in the water. And they saw me there and I went out in the water, trying to get the door open to get the guy out of the vehicle to save him but I couldn’t get him out. That was exactly what happened. I mean, I was trying to save the guy. I was trying to share with him the Word. I was trying to show him the ways of Christianity and show him the ways of faith. He would call me wise Soloman. He would catch on to some things, but it wasn’t important enough to him. He wouldn’t cease doing his little conniving things in the background.

And so I kept praying for him, working, trying to help him to see through it and help him to be delivered, but many things happened there. In the mission, for instance, we cast out a lot of demons. I never saw so many demons to be cast out in a group of people in all my life. I learned that missions are a place for a lot of people who come in off the road, and who have problems and need help. And so we ended up casting out a lot of demons. Some very supernatural things happened there. But the Lord told me that this man was a Saul. And, you know, I started more and more taking over the ministry teaching. I was teaching more and more and he taught less and less. I asked him one time, “Aren’t you going to teach anymore?” He said, “No, I just feel kind of dried up.” I knew that the Lord was doing this so that I could help these people.

It was the same situation with Saul and David. Saul wasn’t ready to go out there and take on the giants, but he was glad that David was taking care of it. But then when the women started singing their songs and saying, Saul hath slain his thousands, And David his ten thousands (1Sa.18:7), Saul became jealous. The Bible says he eyed David from that day and forward (9). He was worried about this guy taking over the kingdom, which was God’s plan. And it happened because Saul was not leading the people to crucify the Amalekites and Saul refused to put to death Agag, who was the head of the corporate body of the beast, the old man, and so, because of that, God moved on and chose David and anointed him.

I had some other instances of the same thing. During that time, some of those people moved on, and some of them came and fellowshipped with us. We taught them, we shared with them, and so on. This man moved to another town and he prophesied that I was supposed to come over there and teach leaders in his particular building, but I just began to pray that God would open people’s eyes. I did it in the first church in this particular town.

I prayed, “Lord, open the people’s eyes. Help them to see that this man is not who they think he is.” God answered that prayer. People had visions and dreams of this man. One man, out of whom I cast 12 demons, literally had supernatural strength. He came in as an alcoholic when I was preaching and he was immediately delivered and totally sobered up. He got saved, but then he started continuing with some of his old habits and began watching pornography. Then these demons entered into him and he almost killed this pastor and his secretary. He ran the deacon through one of those big plate glass doors and sent him to the hospital. The demons just manifested in this guy.

The pastor was in the mission when this happened, along with a lot of other people. He was leading them astray and I was casting demons out, praying for the people, helping the people along. So I asked the Lord to show people who this pastor really was. Besides the two women who had the exact same dream I shared, another woman had a dream that she saw this man outside the window and he was trying to gain pity from her because he was outside in the cold and so on. So she went to the church window and opened it, and when he came in he was a dragon. And the Lord impressed her to go down to the library and look up the man’s name, which she did and found out that his last name meant “dragon,” amazingly.

And then that guy who had all the demons also got a vision. He saw a man standing behind the pulpit, speaking into the microphone, and the man was a serpent and all the people were going to sleep. When God started showing people all these dreams and visions they started departing from him. But that pastor just went over to another city and did the same thing, and I prayed that God would open the people’s eyes there, too. Then the same thing happened. The church there fell all apart. I tell you, folks, God’s people are in bondage. We need to pray for God’s people that He will open their eyes and help them to see that some of them are sitting underneath Saul ministries. They need to come out from among them and be separate (2 Corinthians 6:17).

After this, the same thing happened to me a couple more times. For instance, I was invited to another church, a non-spirit-filled denomination. I was invited there to share where I met the pastor and his wife in a home school meeting. I told him, “Hey, you don’t even know what I believe.” He said, “Well, I know you told me you preach discipleship.” I said, “Yes, that’s true.” So he invited me over there and I was very graceful with them. You know, you have to be careful and help people to try to receive some things from the Lord.

So, anyway, while I was there fellowshipping, there were an awful lot of sick people there because they really didn’t believe in divine healing or deliverance. They didn’t believe in any of those things, thinking that all passed away. So, essentially, I was sharing with people and I prayed for some after they gained knowledge. I went to their Sunday schools and shared things with them there too. They asked questions and I shared my experiences and shared words with them and so on. It worked out to where we were able to pray for a few people in that church who received healing and we cast out some demons. The elders, of course, did not believe in these kinds of things and didn’t believe in being filled with the baptism of the Holy Spirit.

My wife, for instance, went to one of their ladies’ meetings. She saw a vision of one of the women there and in the vision, the woman had a very angry face. My wife knew it wasn’t physical, she knew it was spiritual. She said she knew that woman had a demon of anger. And so they started going around the room testifying and when this woman’s turn came, she stood up and said, “I just don’t understand why I’m so angry,” as a confirmation to my wife. So my wife told the woman, “Well, I’m going to get my husband to call you. I think he can help you.” The woman said, “Okay.” When my wife came home, she told me about it. She said the woman had a crippled foot and that she was full of this anger. So I called her up and I was very careful because, of course, they don’t get training in that regard. I just shared with her that, “My wife saw a demon in you. This anger that you’re having a problem with is a demon spirit.”

Thankfully, this lady was very young in this religion. She hadn’t been heavily indoctrinated so she was open to the truth. Anyway, she came to our home and we commanded the demon to come out. The demon came out and she felt the deliverance. Then we told her that the Lord also wanted to heal her foot. We prayed for her foot and God healed her foot. We prayed for her to receive the baptism of the Holy Spirit and she received it. She started speaking in tongues; it was in Hebrew, and I recognized it as Hebrew and wrote it down and I made sure I was getting the interpretation right.

I went to the Concordance and brought back to her what she had said. She was actually prophesying concerning her family and it was a very good prophecy. She was just delighted that she had received all this, and that all this blessing came upon her. And I said to her, “You know, it would probably not be a good thing for you to go back and tell the elders about this.” In this particular church, the elders had equal authority and the pastor was an elder. And I warned her that it probably wouldn’t work out well, but she was just overflowing. It kind of reminded me of when Jesus said, “Now don’t go and say anything to anyone,” and, of course, he went and just blabbed it everywhere (Luke 5:12-15). Jesus couldn’t even go into the town because everybody knew Him.

Well, she did just that. She was working part-time at the bookstore in this church, and when some of the ladies who were there were talking to her, she told this great, wondrous thing that God had done for her. Those ladies went right to the pastor and told the pastor and the elders and so on. This was on top of other healings and deliverances we had done, so the elders decided they were going to call me on the carpet. There were five elders there and they had made an appointment for me to come and they were going to grill me on what I was teaching.

One of the things they asked me about was joining a church. I had explained to some of these people, “No, you don’t join a church. You’re baptized into the body of Christ. It’s not such a physical thing as that. Nobody can hire you, nobody can fire you. You’re born into the Body of Christ and there is no joining a church.” I shared a few other things like the baptism of the Holy Spirit and healing and deliverance. They had objections to all these things and so they started asking me, “Why are you teaching this?” and “Why are you teaching that?” It was the Sauls, the bulls of Bashan around me, and I just backed everything up with Scripture. I said, “Well, I teach it because it’s in the Bible.” I told them, “This is what it says about being filled with the Holy Spirit. This is what the Bible says about casting out demons. This is what the Bible says about joining a church. This is what the Bible says about baptism.”

They kept asking one question right after another and I just kept giving them Biblical truths. They were keeping the minutes of the meeting and I found out it made them look so bad that they were trying to change them afterward, but one of the elders spoke up and said, “No, you can’t do that. That’s dishonest, that’s lying. This is what happened.” They were trying to change it and he wouldn’t let them change it.

Even though I gave them all completely Scriptural answers, they didn’t agree. They didn’t use any Scripture, but they didn’t agree. And at the end of the meeting they said, “Well, here’s what we want you to do. We either want you to quit teaching these things” (I was not teaching there; it was people from their assembly coming to our meetings and I was teaching them there.) They said, “We either want you to quit teaching our people this or we want you to separate.” I said, “Well, I’ll tell you what, give me another week and I will go to the Lord to find out how to answer you.” I didn’t say “what” to answer them, I said “how” to answer them.

A week later, they called me back on the carpet and asked, “What’s your answer?” I said, “Well, I did seek the Lord and I found out how to answer you. I want to share with you why I teach this, this, this and this.” I just started giving verses, verses, and more verses, just overwhelming them with verses and responsibility. Because when you give verses to people who say they’re Christian leaders, but they don’t act according to the Word of God and they don’t believe the Word of God when they can’t even back it up with the Word of God, you’re making them responsible.

At the end of the meeting they just were angry. One of the elders jumped up and said, We thought you were going to tell us yes or no if you were going to stop or not. No, I said I would ask God how to answer you and I am doing that so please sit down and let me finish. This was an elder whom I had prayed for and he had been healed.

I had commented to him about their long list of sick people and asked why the elders didn’t pray for them in faith as the bible commands. He said, “Well, why don’t you take me and let’s go do this?” So I went with him. We prayed over three people in the assembly and they were healed, and he witnessed this. He asked me to pray over him to receive the Holy Spirit.

Another elder, whose wife had run off with a so-called charismatic leader who believed in speaking in tongues, and so he was angry about that. And I pacified him a little bit. I just told him, “No, it was wrong; it was an evil thing that this man did. That doesn’t say that he was walking in the Lord at all and I don’t blame you for being hurt about it.”

But, despite all that, these elders were all ganging up on me while I was just giving them Scriptural answers. They finally ended up saying, “Look, we just want you to stop teaching these things.” And I replied, “I can’t do that. I can tell you right now I’m not going to back away from the Word of God, not one iota.” They said, “Then we want you to separate from us.” I answered, “Okay, well, it was your decision, not mine.” So I went to the door of the church while the elders watched me. I kicked my shoes against the frame of the doorway and shook the dust off my feet, just exactly the way Acts 13:51 says to do.

A very short time later their denomination decided that this pastor was not fit to be a pastor. They made him, a basketball coach instead of a pastor. Well, then the church was floundering because they were using their elders, who didn’t know the Word of God in the first place, to teach them. Pretty soon people just started leaving; it fizzled and the doors closed. Then they sold the church buildings and grounds to some people who, very fitly made a large children’s nursery out of it. So that was the second time I was in a church, sharing truth, and God decided just to close the doors. He made them responsible and they rebelled against the Word. These were Saul ministries.

I’m telling you a lot of these Saul ministries are going to close down because people are going to come out of them. They’re going to see through them, they’re going to see that they’re dead. I’m talking about anybody with eyes to see and ears to hear are going to see that they’re dead churches and the people who stay are going to be dead. Go into one of these old mainline denominational churches and look around. Usually it’s just old people stuck in their ways and the younger generation has moved on. Remember, Babylon is going to be full of all these doleful creatures (Isaiah 13:21), in other words, unclean beasts. Revelation 18:2 speaks of the same thing. Ultimately, it’s going to be full of demons.

You need to accept the truth and come out from among them and follow Jesus because this whole thing is going to die, decay and fall all to pieces. It’s going to get worse and worse and worse. Two of those men later repented but it was too late. Their church was gone. God just scattered it and tore it all to pieces. Those two men later contacted me and repented for what they’d done. They realized that there was dishonesty there, that they were trying to change the minutes of the meeting in order to make it look like they were justified in running me off. They were telling lies to the people about me, but God didn’t let them get away with it. He tore that whole thing down. The same thing happened to another church of the same denomination after that. After I was there, and share testimonies before their assembly I saw the people loved it but the elders did not and then whole thing shut down.

When Jesus came, He shared the truths that were the Word of God. It made the people responsible. He told those Pharisees and Sadducees, If I had not come and spoken unto them, they had not had sin: but now they have no excuse for their sin (Joh.15:22). What God did with those people is he scattered them, which was probably very good for them. He took away even that which they did have, as it says in Mat 13:12 For whosoever hath, to him shall be given, and he shall have abundance: but whosoever hath not, from him shall be taken away even that which he hath.

When I was going to this elders meeting, God gave me these verses when I asked Him, “Lord, what are You going to do in this thing? All these people are coming against me. What are you going to do? Show me, Lord.” Then I opened the Bible and my finger came down right on this verse: (Eze.2:6) And thou, son of man, be not afraid of them, neither be afraid of their words, though briars and thorns are with thee, and thou dost dwell among scorpions: be not afraid of their words, nor be dismayed at their looks, though they are a rebellious house. And thou shalt speak my words unto them, whether they will hear, or whether they will forebear; for they are most rebellious.

And He goes on to speak about eating the roll of the book. Then I said, “Okay, Lord. Would you give me one more confirmation of this?” When I flipped my Bible open and stuck my finger down again, I saw this: (Jer.1:17) Thou therefore gird up thy loins, and arise, and speak unto them all that I command thee: be not dismayed at them, lest I dismay thee before them. (18) For, behold, I have made thee this day a fortified city, and an iron pillar, and brazen walls, against the whole land, against the kings of Judah, against the princes thereof, against the priests thereof, and against the people of the land. (19) And they shall fight against thee; but they shall not prevail against thee: for I am with thee, saith the Lord, to deliver thee.

Well, I’ll tell you, I was pumped up and ready for that meeting and the Word of God was just going forth and it was making them responsible. God did not let them get away with what they did. He tore their little church fellowship all to pieces. God had demonstrated healing, and deliverance, and He had demonstrated the baptism of the Holy Spirit but they denied the Word over and over and over. They had never heard it so plainly, I’m sure. God just tore that Saul ministry down, though some of those people moved on to our David ministry. He did this with me four times back then and a few times since.

Church after church all closed down. And, you know what, I think it was a sign of things to come. I think in itself it wasn’t all that significant. These churches were not churches; they were fakes. They didn’t teach the Word of God. They had a form of godliness, but … denied the power thereof (2Ti.3:5). The Bible says from these also turn away (5). And, thank God, some people had an opportunity to do that, either because the doors closed or because they saw it was no good and they left first, one or the other. But God did His will there and He helped some people.

Folks, we’re looking at the same thing happening all around us in Christianity. They’re becoming more and more corrupt. They’re falling to pieces and falling into all kinds of sin, corruption, and false silly doctrines, but some people are beginning to realize that something is wrong. I’m talking about anybody who has eyes to see. The out-of-church movement is as great as it’s ever been right now. People are coming out from among them. They’re studying the Word of God for themselves and I praise God for it. I hope you are seeing that and I hope you’re praying and asking God to show you in the Word. You don’t need to do anything but sit down and read God’s Word to see what the truth is and to see what a true, Scriptural assembly is supposed to look like. Follow God, friends. Don’t follow these dead denominations or non-denominational denominations.

Prophecies to Denominations

Thomas Gibson Prophecies

2003 01 31 Book 1

For thus saith the Lord. Do not despair. I am going throughout the churches of America to see who will put My Name first, who will put the salvation by the Blood of the Lamb above all else. Those who do so will be blessed by the Lord above; but those who do not will be condemned by Me. Do not turn to the world or the world's ways. Do not listen to the ways of many who compromise My gospel. Those who turn away from the compromising position of the worldly church will be blessed by Me. Those who continue in the work of compromising My Word will be condemned! Do not doubt this word.

I am going throughout the world and throughout the churches in America to see who will put me first. It is time that the worldliness be burned out of the church! It is time to see that God is placed first above all things. There is power in the name of Jesus. Those who walk in that power are walking with Me. Those who do not walk in that power are walking with the world. Not only will I turn away from godless churches, but I will turn to those who are truly serving Me in truth and power, and I will give them a protection in this time. For coming soon is a persecution and a strong attack against My people. Not only that but there is coming trouble to America's shores. I will protect and guide My people through this time. Do not partake in those churches and religious organizations who will not listen to the Word of God and follow it in a complete way.

2003 03 05 Book 1

For thus says the Lord. I am that I am. I have created one church, one Bible, and one truth. Therefore, all who profess to believe in Me must believe to one truth, one God, and one church. Where do we find one church? Where? Why are there so many organizations that use My Name and do not bow to the will of God for one church? In My Word I condemned factions and denominations or sects of My church. You will find it in 1 Corinthians 1. Obey My Word now! Return to the days of the Book of Acts where My people were one; humbling themselves under the mighty hand of God. Turn away from the sins that you have. Destroy your divisions of Me. Become a local church that will not, under any circumstances, change or alter what the Bible says. Leave any church that will not confess that God is all and they are nothing. Return to the humility of the first-century church. Look at what My Word says and believe it; not what some theologian interprets. Stand for all of God's Word and lead the world to Christ!

2003 06 18 Book 2

For thus says the Lord. I am the One who you should be worshipping. I am the One who you should be paying attention to. I am the One who is in control of everything. Those who stand for their denomination, those who stand for their beliefs separate from the Bible, those who stand for their money-organized churches; will stand for the world and I will not be their help when the troubles and denominational fights begin. Yes, there will be fights between churches, fights within churches, and fights between those within the churches and those without.

I am calling My people to stand for peace and love even to love those who are wrong and bring a Spirit of love to those who persecute them. I am calling My people to stand for peace and not fight at this time. For those who fight will lose; and those who will not fight but stand in love for the truth of the Bible will be raised up victorious by Myself in the end. Stand and know that troubled times are coming. Stand and know that there is a way of the world which will lead to sin within the churches. Stand and know that there is a way of God which will lead to truth without man-made, money-organized, churches. So says the Lord.

2003 11 25 Book 1

I cry for My people who are deceived by such a wicked world. So many have tried to make the church look good in the eyes of the world by making the church worldly. So much has been done by these people that My church looks more like the world than Me. I have become strengthened by those who will stand against the worldliness that is in the church always wanting to be so worldly that they have gone away from Me. See in the Word how powerful My church was: healing, miracles on a regular time. But now how many are healed, how many miracles, how many signs and wonders? When they come back to Me, I will come again in signs, wonders, and mighty deeds.

2004 01 28 Book 1

For thus says the Lord. My people who are tormented by unbelievers within the churches are truly those who are My witnesses in all the land. For when those who are within the churches will not bow down and serve the Master, Jesus; then truly sin has come unto the churches. I seek those who will bow down and humble themselves and obey the Spirit of God.

2004 02 8 Book 1

My true church is not a denomination, but rather it is My people gathering into a local congregation with a name that represents the local area. Beyond this is sin. For if one creates a division with Christ, one creates a division of My people which is wickedness.

2004 02 8 Book 2

Thus saith the Lord. Those churches who are truly not part of division-making shall be blessed by Me. Those churches who will not stand as a true and separate church from divisions (denominations) shall be removed. I will no longer have divisions within My body. They shall be removed. I will do this in the coming years.

2004 03 27 Book 1

How many people, says the Lord, have I called out of My church to begin a teaching of My power? They should have been able to learn this within the church, but they could not because the church has preached against My power! I said in My Word, that you shall do greater miracles than I did [John 14:12] Why is this not seen? Because the church preaches worldly man-made power and not Godly power through fasting and prayer!!

2004 04 23 Book 1

There are many who walk in pride in the church thinking that they are someone important who will be used in the coming revival. But no! I will use the humble ones who are not part of the great organized man-made church. For the man-made man-organized church will not partake of what is to come. For what is to come must come through the unhindered move of the Holy Spirit. Anything else would taint the move of God. So says the Lord God.

2004 05 06. Book 1

Thus says the Lord. Did I not command My people to submit to the leading of the Holy Spirit? Why then do I find man-organized man-controlled organizations who call themselves by My Name? In the Book of Acts I saw the multitudes bow down and serve Me. But here in this world we now have an organization that is answerable to itself and the votes of its members.

Blasphemy! Great blasphemy!! So says the Lord!

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