Kill the Old Man or Be Killed

Take No Prisoners

It is kill or be killed, brethren. Either we kill the carnal Canaanite in the land of the soul and take his property or he will kill us as the spiritual man. {Mat.16:21} From that time began Jesus to show unto his disciples, that he must go unto Jerusalem, and suffer many things of the elders and chief priests and scribes, and be killed, and the third day be raised up. {22} And Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall never be unto thee. {23} But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art a stumbling-block unto me: for thou mindest not the things of God, but the things of men. {24} Then said Jesus unto his disciples, If any man would come after me, let him deny himself, and take up his cross, and follow me. {25} For whosoever would save his life shall lose it: and whosoever shall lose his life for my sake shall find it. {26} For what shall a man be profited, if he shall gain the whole world, and forfeit his life? or what shall a man give in exchange for his life?

The carnal man of the land must die for the spiritual man to live in his house and raise his own crops of fruit.

Gospel Beats the Old Man
Kevin R. - 10/18/08
(David's notes in red)

This morning I dreamed that I was on a property of land.  It seemed that I owned most of this land, except this one part in the corner of the lot.  (The old man still owns this part of the land of the soul, mind, will and emotions.)  For some reason, whenever I wanted to use the restroom, I had to go to this corner lot where the restroom was.  (The restroom is for getting rid of waste, like Paul's revelation that his former religious life was "dung.")  As I was approaching down this path, I noticed this older man with his entourage of friends and admirers hanging around, smoking and drinking.  (The old man is the sinner.  He is loved by the world and hated by the Father.)  I knew that this old man was a bully and had pushed me around in the past.  He was all decked out in jean-type clothing (blue-jeans, a black t-shirt and a blue-jean jacket).  On his part of the property were all kinds of items, including a VERY large 4x4 all-terrain-type vehicle; it was enormous.  (A 'go anywhere, do anything' lifestyle.  Many have convenient doctrines that let the old man live the way he wants, like Unconditional Eternal Security, Ultimate Reconciliation and greasy grace. Of those who believe in Jesus, only those who abide in the Word -- that is, in Him -- have eternal life.  {Joh.8:31} Jesus therefore said to those Jews that had believed him, If ye abide in my word, [then] are ye truly my disciples; {32} and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall make you free. {1Jn.5:11} And the witness is this, that God gave unto us eternal life, and this life is in his Son.So, as I passed by him and his entourage of friends, he shouted at me, "Moron!" and started to laugh with his friends.  He was so cocky and confident in himself; his friends fed off of his humiliation of me.  (The old man has many friends who make up the body of the beast; these are all self-confident on the broad road.)

As I was finished in the restroom, I stopped and just looked into the mirror and started reflecting on that bully old-man and what just happened.  (As soon as we are committed to leave the old life behind, we should look in the mirror to see Jesus in us and the old man crucified to receive power to walk as Jesus walked.  {2Co.3:18} But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord the Spirit.)  Then I heard a voice tell me to "Take him out."  After I heard this, boldness rose up in me and my face started to change in the mirror (We start coming into Christ's image when we decide to get rid of the old man.)   I then exited the restroom back toward this old bully man and his friends.  He was kind of caught off guard as I approached him with aggressiveness; as soon as my eye met his, I cracked my knuckles in a fight-type fashion and he started to rush toward me.  As he rushed me to try to tackle me, I grabbed him in a headlock Jujutsu move and used his momentum to flip him back over me, as I rolled back with him.  As soon as we landed we were both upside down on our backs with our heads touching, but I still had him in a choke hold.

(A little background:  I used to train and teach combat jujitsu/grappling, so I believe the Lord is using something I am familiar with for illustration.)

As he broke my grip on the choke, he started to speak discouraging things to me (This is to destroy your faith so that you cannot conquer him.)  At first I didn't say anything back and he got stronger.  (We must speak the promises, confessing Jesus before men.)  As we were both on our feet, he rushed me again and this time I fell back into what is called a guard position in grappling, where I was on my back and my legs were wrapped around his waist as illustrated below.

(NOTE:  The reason I illustrate these positions is because the guard or resting position is to the world, a position of weakness, but from a wresting/grappling point of view it is a position of strength.  I felt very comfortable in this perceived position of weakness.)  (God's power is made perfect in weakness.)

It was about at this time that I heard scriptures being spoken to me as I was fighting this opponent.  There was someone in the growing crowd of spectators whom I couldn't see but could hear very clearly above the crowd noise; this person was instructing/coaching me (The Holy Spirit brings the Word to our remembrance, if we put it in our mind and He will instruct us in the battle.)  (The Lord later revealed that this crowd was not only was the old man's entourage, but also a cloud of witnesses in Heaven cheering me on.  [Hebrews 12:1])

This coach would say certain scriptures to me and I would then speak them and be able to move into better positions over my opponent.  As my opponent was throwing punches and speaking negative words to me, I heard the following scripture:

(Gal.2:20) I have been crucified with Christ; and it is no longer I that live, but Christ living in me:

I said this OUT LOUD to my opponent who then weakened enough for me to slip from the guard position into a semi triangle-choke position.  He struggled just enough to speak some more negative words back to me.  Then I heard another scripture from my coach in the crowd:

(Rom.6:6) knowing this, that our old man was crucified with him, that the body of sin might be done away, that so we should no longer be in bondage to sin;

I then said to him, "My old man has been crucified and I am dead unto sin, but alive unto God in Christ Jesus!"

After saying this to him, I noticed that he got really wet and weaker.  It wasn't just sweat either.  As his clothes got wetter I knew that if I got him into a final triangle-choke position, I could smother him with his own wet arm and finish him off.  (The water on the old man is the application of the "washing of the water with the Word" to put him to death.)

The next scripture came as I was pondering this final move.

(1Jn.4:4) Ye are of God, my little children, and have overcome them: because greater is he that is in you than he that is in the world.

I spoke this to him and he got even wetter and I then slipped into a full, triangle-choke position as illustrated.

At this point he knew that he was desperately in trouble and had lost much confidence and strength.  This triangle-choke position uses the power of the legs to cause a choke around the neck; invariably if the person doesn't submit, they can be choked to death.  (Cutting off the "breath," or "spirit" in Greek, of life.) This is where the opponent usually taps, indicating that he is submitting.  So, this old man started to tap on my leg frantically, trying to speak but I wouldn't let him go; he then passed out.  After a little while I heard, "IT IS FINISHED!" (Jesus killed the old man with these words; He didn't let him live to fight again.)

After this I released my hold; the old man was unconscious on the ground and I believe dead.  I then stood up to see his friends, who were now VERY scared of me, quickly come over and drag the old man away with them. (We are a true, fearsome enemy when the old man is dead.)  As I looked around the property and the things on it, I understood that they now belonged to me.  I looked at the powerful mountain-terrain vehicle, then at the mountain I wanted to climb with it.  Then I woke up.  (The Lord later revealed that the mountain represents the Kingdom of God.)  (The natural life is now under the full control of the Spiritual man.  The Promised Land has been conquered. The Canaanites are dead.  Their house is yours.  Now it is the Spiritual man who can go anywhere and do anything for Christ.)

Spirit Man in the Image of Christ
Cornelius Bosch - 10/25/07
(David's notes in red)

I dreamt of a baby being carried by an invisible man.  (The baby is the fruit of Christ in you, manifested in the spiritual man who is invisible.)  With them also walked a normal man of flesh and bone who seemed to know the invisible man. They spoke to each other.  (They are part of the same body and communicate constantly.)  The baby was very comfortable being carried around by this invisible man. The baby had a small round mirror in his hand and when he looked into the mirror, he could see the face of the man who carried him and they smiled at each other.  The spiritual man is coming into the image of Christ as he sees by faith that we no longer live but Christ lives in us.  (2 Cor.3:18) But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory, even as from the Lord the Spirit.   


At one point there seemed to be a struggle between the man of flesh and bone and the invisible man.  (The flesh lusts against the spirit and the spirit against the flesh.)  The invisible man had a long axe in his hand and hit the man of flesh in the middle of his chest and he died.  (The sword of the spirit, the Word of God, will put to death the carnal man so that only the spiritual man becomes known in our bodies.)  He then seemed to just "step over" and become the same as the invisible man and they were joined by a lot of the same invisible people.  (When the old man dies there is nothing to be seen in us by this world but the spiritual man who is then in the image of Christ but walks in the body of the carnal man taking his land.)  I also had the distinct feeling that all the other invisible people that I saw in the end were Jews, pointing to the "All Israel" in Romans 11.  (Yes, the spiritual New Testament Jews are those who are circumcised in heart and the flesh is cut off.)

Those who walk by faith are in this process of Christ coming in the spiritual man through the death of the old self-life.

The Battle to Take the Land
Reuel Stewart - 8/14/08
(David's notes in red)

I was in a dungeon in the center of a castle that I knew to be the enemy's. There were about 8 to 10 other people who were there locked up with me. All of a sudden it was like an unseen being opened the door to the dungeon and gave us all swords. ("Reuel" means "friend of God" in Hebrew.  These Josephs are in prison in Egypt, in bondage to the old man, awaiting their release to dominion authority to rule over the wicked.) The sword I was given was a long two-edged sword that took two hands to wield. {Heb.4:12} For the word of God is living, and active, and sharper than any two-edged sword, and piercing even to the dividing of soul and spirit, of both joints and marrow, and quick to discern the thoughts and intents of the heart.)  We immediately began to fight our way out of the dungeon through the hallways and up the stairs of the castle. (Use the Word to conquer the old man and the spirits that empower him. {Eph.6:12} For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual [hosts] of wickedness in the heavenly [places].


There were what seemed to be endless amounts of enemy troops that continued to attack us all the way out of the castle. It seemed like we fought nonstop until we got outside of the castle walls. I began to notice by this point that we had all gotten a lot better at swinging our swords and we were able to take on more and more enemies at a time. {Lev.26:7} And ye shall chase your enemies, and they shall fall before you by the sword. {8} And five of you shall chase a hundred, and a hundred of you shall chase ten thousand; and your enemies shall fall before you by the sword. {9} And I will have respect unto you, and make you fruitful, and multiply you, and will establish my covenant with you. {10} And ye shall eat old store long kept, and ye shall bring forth the old because of the new. {11} And I will set my tabernacle among you: and my soul shall not abhor you. {12} And I will walk among you, and will be your God, and ye shall be my people. {13} I am Jehovah your God, who brought you forth out of the land of Egypt, that ye should not be their bondmen; and I have broken the bars of your yoke, and made you go upright. {14} But if ye will not hearken unto me, and will not do all these commandments' {17} And I will set my face against you, and ye shall be smitten before your enemies: they that hate you shall rule over you; and ye shall flee when none pursueth you.


I also noticed that we all fought close together in a group, in a circle sometimes when we were in open areas as if to defend each other's backs so the enemy could not sneak in behind us. (We must pray for one another constantly to strengthen one another so others may strengthen us. {1 Thes.1:2} We give thanks to God always for you all, making mention [of you] in our prayers; {1:3} remembering without ceasing your work of faith and labor of love and patience of hope in our Lord Jesus Christ, before our God and Father. {1 Tim.2:1} I exhort therefore, first of all, that supplications, prayers, intercessions, thanksgivings, be made for all men. {1 Thes.5:17} pray without ceasing; {18} in everything give thanks: for this is the will of God in Christ Jesus to you-ward. {Jn.16:24} Hitherto have ye asked nothing in my name: ask, and ye shall receive, that your joy may be made full. {Jas.4:2} ' ye have not, because ye ask not.)


When we got out of the castle there was a large field (overcoming the world) that we had to cross which led to a big river that flowed past the other end of it. As we fought our way to the river (of life in the Word), we looked up ahead and there was a dock with a ship that was tied to it. I somehow knew at this point that our castle was miles upstream from where we were and that we needed to get on the ship and sail upstream to our castle. (We always go contrary to the direction of the world.)  We fought our way onto the ship and overtook it and began to sail upstream. I thought about everything that we had gone through and it was hard to imagine how we had been able to make it this far against so many enemies with there being so few of us. {Joshua 23:8} but cleave unto Jehovah your God, as ye have done unto this day. {9} For Jehovah hath driven out from before you great nations and strong: but as for you, no man hath stood before you unto this day. {10} One man of you shall chase a thousand; for Jehovah your God, he it is that fighteth for you, as he spake unto you. {11} Take good heed therefore unto yourselves, that ye love Jehovah your God. {12} Else if ye do at all go back, and cleave unto the remnant of these nations, even these that remain among you, and make marriages with them, and go in unto them, and they to you; {13} know for a certainty that Jehovah your God will no more drive these nations from out of your sight; but they shall be a snare and a trap unto you, and a scourge in your sides, and thorns in your eyes, until ye perish from off this good land which Jehovah your God hath given you.)


It seemed as if we had been fighting for a very long time, but we knew that there were going to be a lot more battles up ahead. We were all very sober at this point. We knew that the enemy was very mad that we had escaped and that they were going to send a large army after us to defeat us. (Pharaoh's army came to bring Israel back into captivity to serve them.) So we sailed upstream until we made it to our castle and we were greeted by other friends of ours who were excited to see us. We told them about everything we had been through. We now all began to make plans to defend against what we knew was to be a major attack from the enemy. One thing I noticed was that our entire army, even with the eight or 10 of us who just got there, only consisted of about 50 men. For some reason I didnt think that numbers were much of a factor at this point. Our plans did not only involve defending our castle, but also attacking the enemy's castle. (We must take the battle to the enemy constantly and not just wait until he hits us unawares. Fight for his ground instead of yours. {2 Cor.10:3} For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh {4} (for the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh, but mighty before God to the casting down of strongholds), {5} casting down imaginations, and every high thing that is exalted against the knowledge of God, and bringing every thought into captivity to the obedience of Christ.)


The final plan was that we would defend the best we could, but if the enemy began to push us back we would fall back to a little tunnel at the far rear of our castle that led to the river where we had a few ships that we could get on if we had to. (If we plan to fall back we will but we must plan to stand. {Eph.6:11} Put on the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles of the devil. {12} For our wrestling is not against flesh and blood, but against the principalities, against the powers, against the world-rulers of this darkness, against the spiritual [hosts] of wickedness in the heavenly [places]. {13} Wherefore take up the whole armor of God, that ye may be able to withstand in the evil day, and, having done all, to stand. {14} Stand therefore, having girded your loins with truth, and having put on the breastplate of righteousness, {15} and having shod your feet with the preparation of the gospel of peace; {16} withal taking up the shield of faith, wherewith ye shall be able to quench all the fiery darts of the evil [one]. {17} And take the helmet of salvation, and the sword of the Spirit, which is the word of God: {18} with all prayer and supplication praying at all seasons in the Spirit, and watching thereunto in all perseverance and supplication for all the saints.)


Almost immediately after we had finished making our plans we looked up at the river in front of the castle and I saw the entire river filled with hundreds of ships and tens of thousands of troops unloading on the beach. They filled the entire field in front of the castle. {Mt.26:53} Or thinkest thou that I cannot beseech my Father, and he shall even now send me more than twelve legions of angels? {Lk.8:30} And Jesus asked him, What is thy name? And he said, Legion; for many demons were entered into him. {31} And they entreated him that he would not command them to depart into the abyss'; {33} And the demons came out from the man... Once the entire field was full, then they attacked all at once and the battle began. There were so many of them they just began to pour over the walls from all directions and we all began to fall back to the tunnel. Now the tunnel was only about 15 feet wide so we were able to hold back the enemy pretty well once we got there. We decided to send about 40 of our guys to go ahead on one of the ships to attack the enemy';s castle (more should be attacking the enemy than defending our ground) while the other 10 guys and I stayed back to keep fighting the enemy that were in our castle. This may sound like crazy thinking with such ridiculous odds against us but we all agreed that it was the best decision to make at the time because we could only have a few of us fight at a time in the little tunnel. The ship left and the 10 of us who stayed back kept on fighting in the little tunnel. Now the fight went on for what felt like hours. I kept noticing that the longer I fought the faster I kept getting with the sword. We got so good with the swords that we were able to push the enemy farther and farther back. I began to feel like there was nothing the enemy could do to stop us(Confidence comes from practice and victories. {1 Tim.6:12} Fight the good fight of the faith, lay hold on the life eternal, whereunto thou wast called, and didst confess the good confession in the sight of many witnesses.)


Then someone behind me said that soon the enemy would send one of their best guys against me and that he would be hard to beat. I could not imagine that they had someone that could be much of a challenge, being that by this point I was taking on dozens of enemies at a time. Not soon after he said that, the enemy stopped attacking and backed up about 50 feet or so. This huge guy covered with massive armor and all kinds of different weapons on him stepped forward. (The giant in the land, self; Goliath, who was felled with thoughts and words.)  We began to fight right away. I noticed that he was at least as fast as I was at swinging his sword and every time I thought I had found a weakness in him, it seemed like he had the right weapon to counter whatever I did. (The flesh is trained to resist the thoughts and Words of the Spirit.) This fight went on for what seemed like about one hour. After a while I began to realize that I could swing my sword at the speed of thought. Once I realized this I quickly got to the point that I could move my whole body, arms and sword at lightning fast speed by simply thinking it. (It is not a war of fleshly ability but of the thoughts and Words of God.)  Once this happened I destroyed my foe almost instantly, chopping him in pieces. I was amazed at what had just happened and felt like there was nothing the enemy could do to stop us now.


I then heard another voice behind me say that now they would send their two very best and most powerful guys to attack me and that even though I could swing my sword at lightning speed it wouldn't be enough to beat them. Again I couldnt think of how they had anyone who would be able to stand up against us now, but sure enough, almost immediately I saw two guys come forward and they began to walk toward me. At first glance I looked at them and they didn't really seem like much of a threat because they didn't have any armor on and if anything they were dressed in kind of fancy clothes. They had no shield either, just a little sword almost the size of a knife. When they reached me I instantly took my sword and knocked both of their swords out of their hands. Now they had nothing to fight with so I was really wondering what they were going to be able to do now that they had no weapons. I cut one of them in half at the waist but as my sword went through him it was like his body just sealed himself right back together and there was just a faint line that showed where I had cut him. This puzzled me for a moment but I quickly went and attacked again and this time cut both of them into about five or six pieces, but the same thing happened again -- all of their wounds just seemed to instantly seal up again. They continued walking toward me at a steady pace. I was not sure what to do next. The only thing that I could think of doing was maybe if I chopped them up fast enough and into enough pieces then maybe they could be beat. So I swung my sword as fast as I could at lightning speed and literally in a matter of about two or three seconds chopped both of them into thousands of little pieces about the size of the tip of my pinky, but the same thing happened. All the little pieces of them just kept holding together. I could still see all the cut marks all over them. I didnt really know what else to do so I just kept on swinging my sword as they kept walking toward me until they backed me up to our end of the tunnel and as they were about to get out on our side I heard a voice behind me say that those two guys could only be killed with fire. It was like at that moment I realized I could command fire to destroy them(The enemy changes tactics so that we have to depend on the Lord';s guidance constantly and not the methods of the past. In this way we are speaking the current Word of the Lord and not relying on the dead letter.)


So I put my sword up for a moment and I rebuked them and a fireball came out of me and instantly consumed both of them. Once they were consumed, the other 10 guys and I who were behind me all ran full speed at the rest of the enemy that was in the tunnel and destroyed everyone in our path until we got all the way to the other end; and at unnatural speeds we destroyed everyone of them who had been sent to attack us until our castle and land was completely rid of them. (When the enemy's influence is gone from our own camp, then we are truly a terror to him, as it was with Jesus and His apostles.) We then got on a ship and sailed downstream to the castle of the enemy where our other friends who had gone ahead of us and were fighting a major battle with the enemy. We joined up with them and we all fought together until the entire enemy was destroyed and we had conquered their castle.


Why is there not the great wisdom and authority to conquer the enemies now?  When the men of Israel were beaten and fled before the men of Ai and the hearts of the people melted the problem was found to be one man';s hidden sin in the midst of the camp. He was guilty of the blood of those who died because Israel found no power against their enemies because of his sin. {Josh.7:7} And Joshua said, Alas, O Lord Jehovah, wherefore hast thou at all brought this people over the Jordan, to deliver us into the hand of the Amorites, to cause us to perish? would that we had been content and dwelt beyond the Jordan! {8} Oh, Lord, what shall I say, after that Israel hath turned their backs before their enemies! {9} For the Canaanites and all the inhabitants of the land will hear of it, and will compass us round, and cut off our name from the earth: and what wilt thou do for thy great name?


{10} And Jehovah said unto Joshua, Get thee up; wherefore art thou thus fallen upon thy face? {11} Israel hath sinned; yea, they have even transgressed my covenant which I commanded them: yea, they have even taken of the devoted thing, and have also stolen, and dissembled also; and they have even put it among their own stuff. {12} Therefore the children of Israel cannot stand before their enemies; they turn their backs before their enemies, because they are become accursed: I will not be with you any more, except ye destroy the devoted thing from among you. {13} Up, sanctify the people, and say, Sanctify yourselves against tomorrow: for thus saith Jehovah, the God of Israel, There is a devoted thing in the midst of thee, O Israel; thou canst not stand before thine enemies, until ye take away the devoted thing from among you.


';{20} And Achan answered Joshua, and said, Of a truth I have sinned against Jehovah, the God of Israel, and thus and thus have I done: {21} when I saw among the spoil a goodly Babylonish mantle, and two hundred shekels of silver, and a wedge of gold of fifty shekels weight, then I coveted them, and took them; and, behold, they are hid in the earth in the midst of my tent, and the silver under it.


As we see, one problem was personal greed, as with Ananias and Sapphira, who cared not for the Christian community spirit but hoarded for themselves.  As we see, the money was to be devoted to the Lord. {1 Tim.6:5} wranglings of men corrupted in mind and bereft of the truth, supposing that godliness is a way of gain. {6} But godliness with contentment is great gain: {7} for we brought nothing into the world, for neither can we carry anything out; {8} but having food and covering we shall be therewith content. {9} But they that are minded to be rich fall into a temptation and a snare and many foolish and hurtful lusts, such as drown men in destruction and perdition. {10} For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil: which some reaching after have been led astray from the faith, and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows. {11} But thou, O man of God, flee these things; and follow after righteousness, godliness, faith, love, patience, meekness. {12} Fight the good fight of the faith, lay hold on the life eternal, whereunto thou wast called, and didst confess the good confession in the sight of many witnesses.


Also we see that hiding a Babylonish garment will rob the power necessary to defeat the enemies. This garment represents secretly putting on the works of that which pertains to apostasy and sin. Are there hidden sins in your life?  You will weaken your faith and the faith and hands of those around you to conquer the enemies? Their loss and destruction will be your fault. Achan and his family were stoned to death for his hidden sins. {Mt.10:26} Fear them not therefore: for there is nothing covered, that shall not be revealed; and hid, that shall not be known. {1 Cor.4:5} Wherefore judge nothing before the time, until the Lord come, who will both bring to light the hidden things of darkness, and make manifest the counsels of the hearts; and then shall each man have his praise from God.  {2 Cor.4:2} but we have renounced the hidden things of shame, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by the manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God. 


{Pr.28:13} He that covereth his transgressions shall not prosper: But whoso confesseth and forsaketh them shall obtain mercy. Confess your sins to righteous brethren and have them pray for you. {Jas.5:16} Confess therefore your sins one to another, and pray one for another, that ye may be healed. The supplication of a righteous man availeth much in its working.

War to Put Off the Old Man and Beast
Peter K. - 2/11/08
(Rory and David's notes in red)

The dream takes place on a battle field and it was gloomy (there was no sunlight).  (The field is the world in all its darkness.)  I shouldn';t even call it a field since the area of battle was quite small and it appeared that it was in a dungeon of some sort. (We were in bondage to the man of flesh like Israel in Egypt.)  I was dressed in a Spartan';s uniform (he represented the saints' battle in the body of the old man), similar to the uniform in the movie ';300'; with the red cape or cloak (representing sin).  There were many other Spartans surrounding me. It appeared that Spartans were warring against other Spartans. (The body of the beast will make war on the body of Christ. Both are in a body of flesh. {2 Cor.10:3} For though we walk in the flesh, we do not war according to the flesh.) The battle had not begun yet but we were all in position for battle. (We are coming to the tribulation war between these two.)  Another Spartan and I were positioned beside the king or general of our army.  The king (who was elevated on something which may have been a chariot) was holding a spear and in the distance across from him there was an enemy Spartan sitting on a horse. The battle begins. 

Immediately on the right, the enemy attacked thrusting his sword by me and killing my king, who throws his spear and kills the Spartan on the horse.
(First we get the revelation that Jesus died to conquer the old man and his spirits, including their head, the devil.) At first, it appeared that I was the target but miraculously it missed me and killed the king instead. (We deserved to be the target but Jesus took the blows as in Isaiah 53.)  I was frightened and confused, not knowing what to do or where to go. I began to charge into battle with my sword in a state of weakness, still in fear, clueless, and unskillful in war. We all had swords (representing words), but mine may have appeared larger. I would swing my sword without any strength or power, cutting some enemies, but not injuring any as I had expected. I believe the sword could have been heavy, but I am certain that I was weak. (';The spirit is willing but the flesh is weak';. ';My power is made perfect in weakness';. )

As the battle continued, a number of miraculous things happened and nothing could harm me. Praise the Lord!! The enemy (opposing Spartans), one by one, were charging at me with their swords but before they could swing at me they cut their own throats. ({Ps.37:14} The wicked have drawn out the sword, and have bent their bow, To cast down the poor and needy, To slay such as are upright in the way. {15} Their sword shall enter into their own heart, And their bows shall be broken. Like Judas who hung himself with his own hands.) This happened a couple times and with some, after they had cut their throats, I would either jab them or dodge them and continue in battle. Other Spartans would thrust their sword at me but I would get ahold of the blade with my bare hand, bend it like plastic, and jab my sword in their back. 

As the battle proceeded and enemies were being defeated, I was also able to swing my sword with strength. ("When I am weak, then am I strong.")  As these miraculous things were happening, I became confident, stronger, and courageous with no sense of fear in me. I felt like a helpless child at the beginning of battle, but now I felt like a champion soldier.  I must have been maturing.  In one instance, a couple of young men, dressed in modern apparel, came out of some form of shelter which was among the battle turf.  Maybe it was a small cabin, but I couldn';t make out what it was. As I had momentum built up, I stabbed one in the eye with my sword settled in his head. He said, ';I';m a Christian,'; and the other I sliced, not knowing what happened afterwards. (In our youthful exuberance we sometimes battle with Christians and wound them, not realizing we have done this.) When he had spoken this, I pulled my sword out of his eye socket and continued on my way as he continued with his. Again, at the end of the battle I became skillful, stronger, and courageous. I was the only Spartan standing with not a scratch on my body. 

I proceeded to my right and entered what seemed to be a market or warehouse with rows of racks of textiles or garments. They appeared to be white. (
{Rev.3:18} I counsel thee to buy of me (with your old life) gold refined by fire, that thou mayest become rich; and white garments, that thou mayest clothe thyself, and [that] the shame of thy nakedness be not made manifest; and eyesalve to anoint thine eyes, that thou mayest see.)  By the end of the battle we will have given our lives to be dressed in righteous acts of the sanctified ones. {Rev.19:8} And it was given unto her that she should array herself in fine linen, bright (Lampros) [and] pure: for the fine linen is the righteous acts of the saints.)

Now this market had light what appeared to be sunlight seeping in from somewhere or there was sunlight at the end of this market. It was quite bright compared to the previous scene of the battle field.  (The light was coming from the Lampros garments. {2 Cor.3:18} But we all, with unveiled face beholding as in a mirror the glory of the Lord, are transformed into the same image from glory to glory'; {4:6} Seeing it is God, that said, Light shall shine out of darkness, who shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ. '; {10} always bearing about in the body the dying of Jesus, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our body. {11} For we who live are always delivered unto death for Jesus' sake, that the life also of Jesus may be manifested in our mortal flesh.)

Suddenly, I heard what sounded to be yelling and laughing which wasn';t very pleasant to me. I peeked down one of the rows and saw two or three little girls or children. (The spiritually immature leaders. {Isa.3:12} As for my people, children are their oppressors, and women rule over them. O my people, they that lead thee cause thee to err, and destroy the way of thy paths) wearing strange outfits and I think they could have been wearing masks. When I had woken up, they reminded me of superheroes or villains({Jn.10:8} All that came before me are thieves and robbers: but the sheep did not hear them.)  They seemed to be rowdy and rebellious.  ({Isa.30:1} Woe to the rebellious children, saith Jehovah, that take counsel, but not of me; and that make a league, but not of my Spirit, that they may add sin to sin '; {9} For it is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of Jehovah.)

They were holding something, maybe a weapon, in their hands. I think they may have injured another child. ({Mt.24:48} But if that evil servant shall say in his heart, My lord tarrieth; {49} and shall begin to beat his fellow-servants, and shall eat and drink with the drunken; {50} the lord of that servant shall come in a day when he expecteth not, and in an hour when he knoweth not, {51} and shall cut him asunder, and appoint his portion with the hypocrites: there shall be the weeping and the gnashing of teeth.)

In fear and disturbance I hid in between the racks of textiles/garments and saw them quickly run by me and exit out of the way I came in. (Escaping the sons of perdition who will quickly depart from the way.)  I proceeded to leave the market and go outside, stepping onto dessert sand. (Joining the children of Abraham, "as the sands of the sea...")  It was extremely bright and the sunlight was beautiful. I looked up into the sun and it wouldn';t harm my eyes (beholding the glory of the Lord).  It was a beautiful and glorious sunshine and I felt a sense of rest and peace.  (Having entered into the rest through faith.)

From what I remember, I wasn';t wearing the Spartan uniform anymore but rather I had been wearing something different.
(By the end of the tribulation, the saints will have put off the old man and put on the new man.)  It could have been a breastplate (of righteousness) and I believe I was still holding my sword (the Word of God).  I looked to my right and saw a mother and her child entering into a form of shelter.  (The man-child and Woman; the saints enter into the Arc; the Psalm 91 Passover of the secret place of the Most High.)  It could have been a broken-down vehicle that they were entering into (humbleness).  In the dream, I had the impression that they were poor and needy. ({James 2:5} Hearken, my beloved brethren; did not God choose them that are poor as to the world [to be] rich in faith, and heirs of the kingdom which he promised to them that love him? {6} But ye have dishonored the poor man. Do not the rich oppress you, and themselves drag you before the judgment-seats? {7} Do not they blaspheme the honorable name by which ye are called?)  The dream ends.

Peter's interpretation:

When I woke up, I immediately began to meditate on the dream and acknowledged that it was The Lord';s power and strength throughout the battle. I asked the Lord for a word out of the Bible and I thanked Him. (Ps.30:3) O Jehovah, thou hast brought up my soul from Sheol; Thou hast kept me alive, that I should not go down to the pit. (The Lord sure kept me alive!!)  My finger landed on ';thou hast kept me alive,'; and it was highlighted in my Bible. Praise God!!

Then I decided to read the entire chapter and to my surprise I found that it applied to my dream.

(Ps.30:5) For his anger is but for a moment; His favor is for a life-time: Weeping may tarry for the night, But joy cometh in the morning. (At the beginning of battle it was dark and I was scared and weak. I had entered the sunlight or morning at the end.)  (Ps.30:6) As for me, I said in my prosperity, I shall never be moved. (Nothing could harm me after I had discovered that I was invincible and secured by the Lord.)  (Ps.30:10) Hear, O Jehovah, and have mercy upon me: Jehovah, be thou my helper.  (The Lord was definitely my helper.)
Ps.30:11 Thou hast turned for me my mourning into dancing; Thou hast loosed my sackcloth, and girded me with gladness;  
After the battle, I entered into a market of textiles or garments. Textiles are usually used to manufacture garments, therefore, going through this market or warehouse may have represented the process of sanctification or ';putting on Christ.';  At the end of the market, I was no longer wearing the cloak which was scarlet red; (Is.1:18) Though your sins be as scarlet, they shall be white as snow. Furthermore, there was sunlight seeping into this textile market; (1 Jn.1:7)  But if we walk in the light, as he is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus his Son cleanseth us from all sin. After exiting the market, I was in peace and rest. I had taken off the cloak and had put on peace and rest; I had been girded with ';gladness.'; I had put on the fruit of Christ. There are many other verses that indicate to ';put on';:
Rom.13:14 But put ye on the Lord Jesus Christ, and make not provision for the flesh, to 'fulfil' the lusts thereof.  (1 Cor.15:54) But when this corruptible shall have put on incorruption, and this mortal shall have put on immortality, then shall come to pass the saying that is written, Death is swallowed up in victory(Eph.4:22) that ye put away, as concerning your former manner of life, the old man, that waxeth corrupt after the lusts of deceit; (23) and that ye be renewed in the spirit of your mind, (24) and put on the new man, that after God hath been created in righteousness and holiness of truth.

I asked the Lord for another word: (Pr.22:15) Foolishness is bound up in the heart of a child; But the rod of correction shall drive it far from him.  (This represents our chastening Lord driving the foolishness out of us.)

And I asked The Lord again for a further interpretation; my finger fell on Ps.146:7, but I continued to read further. (Ps.146:7) Who executeth justice for the oppressed; Who giveth food to the hungry. Jehovah looseth the prisoners; (He will deliver us from bondage to the old man and feed the spiritual man.)
(8) Jehovah openeth the eyes of the blind; Jehovah raiseth up them that are bowed down; Jehovah loveth the righteous;  (9) Jehovah preserveth the sojourners; He upholdeth the fatherless and widow; But the way of the wicked he turneth upside down.
 (He opened our eyes. We were once married to and fathered by this world and its god but now they are dead to us.  We are adopted sons and married to our Lord.) In the sunlight (day), The Lord preserved and protected the child and woman, which can be symbolized by the shelter that they had entered into.)

The king with the spear may have represented carnal wisdom and guidance, since a Spartan';s king was the brain of operations. A spear was possessed by King Saul and he turned out to be disobedient and walking in flesh. When that king died, I had nothing to rely on but God.  (2 Cor.12:9) And he hath said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my power is made perfect in weakness. Most gladly therefore will I rather glory in my weaknesses, that the power of Christ may rest upon me.

I believe this battle represented my life and those who will fight with me. As I have said above, I got stronger and matured during battle by The Lord';s power. In Exodus, Moses fears and lacks confidence to approach Pharaoh, but the Lord reassures him that He will be with him. (Ex. 4:12) Now therefore go, and I will be with thy mouth, and teach thee what thou shalt speak.  It';s only further into the scriptures it can be seen that Moses transformed into someone with boldness and authority. The flesh is cut off from speaking as we walk in weakness and in faith. As The Lord cuts the throats of the flesh (as in the dream) from speaking, He brings us through sanctification.

Many Dying in Shallow Water Christianity
Bob Aicardi - 12/19/99
(David's notes in red)

Many ministers actually do the work of the devil and the old man by taking from the saints the sword they need to conquer the old man. Because of this, the old, carnal man conquers the spiritual man who becomes ';twice dead and plucked up by the roots,'; as Jude said.

In a dream I was looking for a close friend who was in trouble. I called out to her with a sense of life-threatening urgency. I walked into an enclosed building and found a pool inside.  As I approached the pool I saw nothing but bodies floating face down.  All in the pool were dead; no one in the building was alive.

I proceeded to the next door connecting to a second building. Inside again were corpses in the shallow end of the pool with living people in the deep end. A class of instruction was being conducted on "how to commit suicide" by what appeared to be religious leaders.  I saw my friend taking instruction from the pastors and she was preparing to end her life as those already face down in the shallow end. I was angered and I walked straight up to her, taking her face into my hand, gazing into her eyes and saying, "Don't you want to follow Jesus?" I then said, "You are confused. This is not the way of Jesus."  Then I woke up.

The pools each represent the experience of the Word (water - Eph.5:26) in the life of believers in that particular sect of Christianity.  To spiritually die in the shallow waters is to not experience enough of the Word to bring death to the old man and life to the new man. The pastors that do not teach anything but a popular flesh-pleasing word are killing God's people.  Come out from among them and find the words of life or you will die with them.

{Joh.6:66} Upon this many of his disciples went back, and walked no more with him. {67} Jesus said therefore unto the twelve, Would ye also go away? {68} Simon Peter answered him, Lord, to whom shall we go? thou hast the words of eternal life.

As with Bob's dream, I had one (see below) where the preachers were killing Christians face down in the water of the Word.

Carnal Ministers Killing with the Word
David Eells

I found myself in front of a large church.  I walked through the front door and standing in the foyer was an "old man" in a suit.  I avoided this old man as if he were a rattlesnake and went into the sanctuary, so called.  I saw there a large double sink, full of water.  In the water were babies; they were face down and most were dead.  I quickly went to the sink, picked up a baby and held him in the air.  He spoke to me, saying, "Thank God, I knew he was going to send someone."

Interpretation:  I was made to know that there are many carnal ministers (old man - Eph.4:22; Col.3:9,10) who are trying to wash up the people of God (babies in the sink) by the letter of the Law (water - Eph.5:26) and are instead killing them.  (2Co.3:6) who also made us sufficient as ministers of a new covenant; not of the letter, but of the spirit: for the letter killeth, but the spirit giveth life.  The letter of the Law that is taught by the Pharisees of today gets our eyes on our own earthly ability or inability (face down).  Many are they that sit under the condemnation of the Law, which is a powerless false gospel, only to give up in their failure to please God and go back into the world or die on a church pew.  We cannot pick ourselves up by our bootstraps or be saved by our own self will.  This is an understanding that is from the earth (face down).  Seeking this is to be ';ever learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth'; that sets free.  Jesus purposely spoke in parables so that only those who have eyes and ears for heavenly things would understand (Mt.13:10-14).  These seek a knowledge that is born from above (face up).  (Mat.16:17) And Jesus answered and said unto him, Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jonah: for flesh and blood hath not revealed it unto thee, but my Father who is in heaven.  As always, those whose understanding is ';face up'; will be fought by those whose understanding is ';face down.';  The good news of the promises is the power of God given freely to save the one who believes (Rom.1:16).  These promises get our eyes on God';s ability and provision (face up).  These promises give faith (Rom.10:17) to get grace (Eph.2:8) in order to have the power to live the Christian life and cease from our works.